Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

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HugoandAnna
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Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

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Any advice about the availability of gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium?
Can we hope to find resealable cannisters (e.g. primus) fairly easily? What do other people use?
A trangier is probably not an option, as we need to fit a fairly large pot on the stove (we are a family of four).
Any other stove advice very welcome.
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If all else fails there's Decathlon:

http://www.decathlon.nl/gasvulling-powe ... 38931.html

(although hopefully they have larger sizes as well).

But given the number of Dutch people you meet in campsites around Europe there must be lots of other camping goods shops.
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You should be able to find Primus (threaded) cartridges in outdoor stores. If you are passing a big town/city just do a google search for outdoor stores in that town. In Holland I found the Beaver chain of stores useful (http://www.bever.nl/index.cfm/fuseaction/main.shops).

However I also recommend getting the Edelrid Cartridge adaptor for Camping Gaz (http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/ ... aptor-p454). IME CampingGaz is more widespread in Europe and they have a useful store locator, which works all across Europe, where you can find stockists.

You can probably find them for sale at larger campsites but they do tend to have a high markup.....
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The adapter you link to is for the resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.
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andymiller wrote: resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.


This surprises me - Belgium and Holland - in my experience I have found the blue CV cylinders are readily available - in all sizes - in most large supermarkets and in pretty much all home improvement stores - the primus type ive not seen outside good outdoors shops in the larger towns - Ive not been in a decathlon in Belgium or Holland but in most other countries where I have been in a decathlon they carried both types

I dont leave home without at least one eldrid adaptor (CV to primus)

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=tS&pic_id=1192076&size=large

I wouldn't bother with the adaptor for puncture type cartridge - I did have one - arrived in Greece off the plane and surmised beforehand that I wouldnt be going anywhere in the first couple of days where I would be able to buy either primus or CV - it was a good plan - 30ks down the road I found some piercable cartridges in a tiny dirty garage - however, I carried the adaptor without using again it for another 10years before it fell apart
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andymiller wrote:IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type.

How long ago is your experience?
It's illegal to sell puncture-style stoves (on Euro H&S grounds), and has been for a number of years, so the canisters for them are gradually becoming less and less common.
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andrew_s wrote:
andymiller wrote:IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type.

How long ago is your experience?
It's illegal to sell puncture-style stoves (on Euro H&S grounds), and has been for a number of years, so the canisters for them are gradually becoming less and less common.


I've seen them in campsite shops in recent weeks in both Corsica and Sardegna. In fact I've just popped into the shop of the campsite where I am now and they have three. None of the other sort. Excuse the crappy picture, but I rest my case.

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I'm in Italy and northern Europe may be different because firms like Primus have a stronger presence.

It may be illegal to put the stoves on the market but there are an awful lot of people who have them and Camping Gaz are still selling the canisters. And as I say IME they are the ones you are most likely to find outside the specialist shops.

psmiffy wrote:
andymiller wrote: resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.


This surprises me - Belgium and Holland - in my experience I have found the blue CV cylinders are readily available - in all sizes - in most large supermarkets and in pretty much all home improvement stores - the primus type ive not seen outside good outdoors shops in the larger towns - Ive not been in a decathlon in Belgium or Holland but in most other countries where I have been in a decathlon they carried both types

I dont leave home without at least one eldrid adaptor (CV to primus)

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=tS&pic_id=1192076&size=large

I wouldn't bother with the adaptor for puncture type cartridge - I did have one - arrived in Greece off the plane and surmised beforehand that I wouldnt be going anywhere in the first couple of days where I would be able to buy either primus or CV - it was a good plan - 30ks down the road I found some piercable cartridges in a tiny dirty garage - however, I carried the adaptor without using again it for another 10years before it fell apart


I did use the words in supermarkets and campsite shops. Yes in larger supermarkets, specialist shops etc you have a better chance.

Personally I would go to the trouble of finding a Decathlon or a Beaver and stocking up. But if you are going to carry an adapter I think the type for the puncture canisters could be more useful. Or carry one of the ultralight 'soda can' alcohol stoves - not ideal if you have four people to cook for, but you could get by with one until you found a shop that had canisters.
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I found the CV-style CampingGaz canisters readily available in 4 months of France/Germany/Switzerland/Austria/Czech/NL and Belgium. In general we found them in supermarkets/B&Q-like shops and only got the Primus threaded canisters when we came across a camping shop, outdoor store or decathlon (which are much more widespread in Central Europe than the UK).

Andymiller's experience is different, so as usual take all advice with a pinch of salt, but perhaps the puncture style ones are more widespread at campsites because a) they're cheaper for campsite owner to buy and b) they probably don't sell many so may have been hanging around for many years.

To be sure you can always use any type of canister then bring both converters but IME the CV type are easy to get hold of and an additional advantage is the converter takes up less space
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bohrsatom wrote: but perhaps the puncture style ones are more widespread at campsites because a) they're cheaper for campsite owner to buy and b) they probably don't sell many so may have been hanging around for many years.


Or becaise they're the what their customers ask for? If you're a typical punter with a Camping Gaz stove you're probably not going to replace it until it breaks - which could mean decades.

There's a world of difference between what you might find in a town with B&Q-type shops and what you'll find in small villages. I've been on the road for 6 weeks and apart from stumbling upon Decathlon in Ajaccio I haven't seem anything that even remotely resembled a B&Q/ Mr Bricolage. I'm sure CV and EN-standard cartridges are readily available, but you may have to seek them out.
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andymiller wrote:The adapter you link to is for the resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.

Yes they do. I have it. It works fine.
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Thanks all for the really helpful replies. Especially that table. We're going to go with our stove that (allegedly) works with both click on and screw on cannisters (need to test that before we set off...) and keep our eyes open for camping stores and the like.
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