Accident My Fault ? Two

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Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 19 May 2014, 11:04pm

Hi, out training today on wide road two way, drop bottle.

I stop promptly at kerb, dismount and park bike at kerb.

Look to see its safe then walk into road and retrieve bottle, turn to go back to kerb and ...........loud crash.........place bottle in rack and look over to otherside of road to see a car ploughed in back of another car :shock:

He did not brake ? Other cars were stationary at time.
Driver is out of car to inspect damage, I mount bike and ride off.........

Was I at fault at all :?:
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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby Postboxer » 19 May 2014, 11:52pm

No you weren't assuming the car just travelled along the road and crashed into the back of a stationary vehicle, was there a queue of traffic on the other side of the road?

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby [XAP]Bob » 20 May 2014, 12:15am

Lol - happened near me as well a week or so ago.
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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby Postboxer » 20 May 2014, 12:29am

Just to add, I wish people would be witnesses more often, even straight forward accidents can sometimes be disputed and sometimes boil down to one driver's word against the other's.

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 20 May 2014, 12:37am

Hi,
Postboxer wrote:No you weren't assuming the car just travelled along the road and crashed into the back of a stationary vehicle, was there a queue of traffic on the other side of the road?

I heard a crash and without looking whilst I was still in the road, assumed a car had collided with another.
When I returned to the pavement, I saw two stationary cars and the third in the back of the second, thats all, not a queue realy.

I just thought that a cyclist on foot in the road trying to pick up bottle (normally hoping that a car doesnt swash it) might have distracted the driver, but they could of been somthing in their car like texting.
Right opposite where I dropped my bottle, just a coincidence probably.
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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby Tonyf33 » 20 May 2014, 4:09am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Postboxer wrote:No you weren't assuming the car just travelled along the road and crashed into the back of a stationary vehicle, was there a queue of traffic on the other side of the road?

I heard a crash and without looking whilst I was still in the road, assumed a car had collided with another.
When I returned to the pavement, I saw two stationary cars and the third in the back of the second, thats all, not a queue realy.

I just thought that a cyclist on foot in the road trying to pick up bottle (normally hoping that a car doesnt swash it) might have distracted the driver, but they could of been somthing in their car like texting.
Right opposite where I dropped my bottle, just a coincidence probably.

you stress too much..one person paying no attention to what was going on plows into other road vehicles, that's got absolutely nothing to do with you..it is their interaction with the vehicles on their side of the road, that you were retreiving a bottle doesn't mean the at fault driver wouldn't have slammed into something else along that road because he wasn't paying attention.

As for the children/instructor incident, you weren't at fault but you probably ought to have dismounted and just pushed your bike through (what if a child had poked their wheel out accidentally and then you could have fallen onto the kids). For the extra few seconds it would have taken (& bearing in mind you weren't really in any position to continue your 'training' at that exact moment so not really disrupting you) and would have likely forced the instructor to dismount too the incident would have been avoided.

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby DevonDamo » 20 May 2014, 8:53am

Your incident reminds me of something that happened to me back in the late '80s. I was riding along a shared-use cycle path. I was the only one on it, and visibility was good. I'd just got to the end of the path where there is a metal barrier which you have to go round before crossing a road, and suddenly there was a financial crash in the City of London. I've always wondered whether that one was my fault.

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby Dynamite_funk » 20 May 2014, 9:00am

Were you wearing lycra when you bent over? If so I would expect you to be...

a) at fault

b) slightly flattered

:lol:

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby BSRU » 20 May 2014, 9:09am

The driver was driving without due car and attention.

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby fluffybunnyuk » 24 May 2014, 1:26am

My bottle got spat out the cage the other day and squished by a car... glad its not just me :twisted:

I wasnt brave enough to go back for it though...

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Re: Accident My Fault ? Two

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 24 May 2014, 3:42pm

Hi,
fluffybunnyuk wrote:My bottle got spat out the cage the other day and squished by a car... glad its not just me :twisted:

I wasnt brave enough to go back for it though...

That's always my first thought that the bottle will be squished, its only a bottle :?
My training ride I do three times a week would realy put the .....*******......**....***....cant say that its sexist, I cross both duel carrage ways on the A38 at Stover using a pedestrian (must be unofficial for sure) narrow path staggered at the central barrier, needs precision timing and I would not suggest any ped or cyclist use it at all, its a short cut fo me, never seen another use it. Dont go there :!:
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