Cycle Travel Question

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Pendodave
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Re: Cycle Travel Question

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roubaixtuesday wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 3:39pm
From the discussion here,

viewtopic.php?p=1826840#p1826840

my understanding is that routing is done on the server, not on the device. So a connection is necessary for routing services.

But I could well be wrong.
Thanks RT.
I knew that the web based tool used a server, but I thought that the app might do things a little more stand-alone.
For example, I'm pretty certain that my Osmand app (which I used before the CT app for realtime navigating on the same device) offers this. It also does "return to path" stuff (which I don't particularly like, but offer as an example of off-grid functionality.
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Jdsk wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 3:34pm
Pendodave wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 3:29pm ...
Rather than follow a route, I just fired up the App (android phone, v.13) and after I'd gone for a while tried to chose a place to navigated to on-the-fly.
Unfortunately, both the 'search' function and the 'highlighting the place with a poke' function failed to work.
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What does it show for Settings... Location Services...

Jonathan
I've given cycle.travel access to location services. It does all the normal navigation from a pre-loaded route just fine.
There's nothing obvious in the other parameters in the LS settings that I can see. I'm pleased to see that I have earthquake warnings "on" (none received yet). I set the increased accuracy using Wifi/bluetooth to "off", so I don't think that being on or off of Wifi will affect the way in which cycle.travel interfaces with it.
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Yep, routing and place search is all done on a server rather then on your phone. That means it can be (in theory!) faster and smarter but does mean you need an internet connection I’m afraid.
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Pendodave
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Re: Cycle Travel Question

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Richard Fairhurst wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 4:04pm Yep, routing and place search is all done on a server rather then on your phone. That means it can be (in theory!) faster and smarter but does mean you need an internet connection I’m afraid.
Thanks Richard.
I might have to keep that Osmand subscription for emergencies then :(
Still much prefer C.T for all other purposes though!
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Pendodave wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 3:48pm
roubaixtuesday wrote: 12 Feb 2024, 3:39pm
From the discussion here,

viewtopic.php?p=1826840#p1826840

my understanding is that routing is done on the server, not on the device. So a connection is necessary for routing services.

But I could well be wrong.
Thanks RT.
I knew that the web based tool used a server, but I thought that the app might do things a little more stand-alone.
For example, I'm pretty certain that my Osmand app (which I used before the CT app for realtime navigating on the same device) offers this. It also does "return to path" stuff (which I don't particularly like, but offer as an example of off-grid functionality.
OSMAnd does do it locally on the phone. But it's pretty ropey, at least on the iPhone. Seems a recognised shortcoming as when I tried it and it repeatedly locked-up an internet search found a FAQ about it on OSMAnd's own website and the solution was to split the route into sub-routes ie chose intermediate locations and construct shorter seperate routes.

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Re: Cycle Travel Question

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Anyone know if it's possible to show *only* bike friendly accommodation?

For when in big cities there's overwhelming choice.
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roubaixtuesday wrote: 18 Feb 2024, 8:55pm Anyone know if it's possible to show *only* bike friendly accommodation?

For when in big cities there's overwhelming choice.
As far as I know campsites listed are from last Archies download prior to web site closing. That listing didn't distinguish cycle friendly. Don't know about source for other types of accommodation but not ever seen cycle friendly listings outside of very specialised web sites (like Acceuil Vélo).

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Re: Cycle Travel Question

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Psamathe wrote: 18 Feb 2024, 9:16pm
roubaixtuesday wrote: 18 Feb 2024, 8:55pm Anyone know if it's possible to show *only* bike friendly accommodation?

For when in big cities there's overwhelming choice.
As far as I know campsites listed are from last Archies download prior to web site closing. That listing didn't distinguish cycle friendly. Don't know about source for other types of accommodation but not ever seen cycle friendly listings outside of very specialised web sites (like Acceuil Vélo).

Ian
Cycle.travel shows "bicycle friendly" accommodation with a star. Eg here in Bergamo.
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Problem is if there's too much accommodation (eg Naples) you can't see the stars.
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If you enlarge the map will the bike friendly places show up?
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francovendee wrote: 19 Feb 2024, 7:51am If you enlarge the map will the bike friendly places show up?
Yes, you can zoom and scroll, I was just wondering if there's an easy way
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Hmmm, what is this new “routes” button next to the gravel/paved route choices? I’m guessing that when finished it will focus on tracking the nearby cycle routes.
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Well spotted! Now live. :D
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Here's an exert from this month's supporter newletter
"You can now ask cycle.travel to plan a route entirely on signposted cycle routes.
If you’re taking a holiday on (say) a EuroVelo route, the UK’s National Cycle Network, or one of France’s national Véloroutes, this makes planning much quicker. No need to drag the route back and forth because cycle.travel wants to send you another way – it can now stick to signposted routes alone.
For example, planning a trip on Lon Las Cymru is now two clicks: one in Cardiff, one in Holyhead. France’s Veloscenic route is one click at Mont St Michel, another in Paris. Or you could try a cross-Europe route taking in several different routes – how about Rostock to Rome?
How it works
Just choose the new "Routes" option"
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roubaixtuesday
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Out of interest, what does the "Night Route" option optimise for?

Can you signpost a description of it?
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The "Night" option is for routes that are likely to be safer at night, which is mostly public roads and cycleways directly alongside them. It tries not to choose routes across parks and towpaths, for example. It's mostly geared towards city cycling rather than rural.
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