Don't you mean "clever megalomaniac"?
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In no part of the definition does it suggest there has to be good. Anyone who can amass the following that he has is exceptional. He is one of the great snake oil salesmen of all time. Heck, folk are even crowd funding this billionaire - how has he got people to do that?cycle tramp wrote: ↑18 Feb 2024, 8:20amBut only because he is telling them, what they want to hear. If you look at some of the rhetoric it is rather quite close to the same that Adolf Hilter used...Pebble wrote: ↑18 Feb 2024, 12:30am I think he is a genius, he could have as many as 40% of the US hanging onto his every word, and you could not achieve that by being an idiot.
don't get me wrong here, I'm no fan boy. I would nearly be as happy to see him assassinated as Putin, Under estimate Trump at your peril
The the situation that Americans find themselves in is not their fault, that it is the fault of another group of people, whether they are Woke, or government agencies or the u.n. and that the only way America can be great again is if it frees themselves from these groups, by force if necessary. It's the same method played out in a number of papers sometimes on a monthly basis.
Adolf Hilter managed to convince enough people to turn on their neighbours (those of the Jewish faith, as well as Gypsies) contain them, before murdering them. If that style of thinking is 'genius' then it's a remarkably different type of meaning to the one I know.
Perhaps if politicians actually came clean and advised that the situations we find ourselves in, were in part down to our own live choices - we may at least feel empowered to do something about it.
I don't get it at all, Trump first popped onto my radar with the destruction of the SSSI Menie sand dunes for a golf course in Aberdeenshire - so he didn't get off to a good start with me.
as much as I despise him, I wouldn't be putting him in the same group as Hitler.
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Check out the new Trump shoes.Its like Trump whiskey.Its just so over the top.I think people would be embarrassed to be seen in them.Don't you mean "clever megalomaniac"?
Unless your name is Tucker Carlson.
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Trump nutters will buy and believe anything he sells and tells them,as Pebble pointed out he currently doesn't even need sell them a product,other than himself,these loonies just give him money when he asks for it!briansnail wrote: ↑18 Feb 2024, 1:51pmCheck out the new Trump shoes.Its like Trump whiskey.Its just so over the top.I think people would be embarrassed to be seen in them.Don't you mean "clever megalomaniac"?
Unless your name is Tucker Carlson.
From the outside looking in it's plainly and ridiculously stupid.
From inside the cult they are the sane ones when you believe he's been sent by Gaad Almydy.
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Cult is the right word, and they never end well.
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I think that the Trump brand that used to be so powerful has flipped in many/most people's minds. Sure there are the diehard MAGAs, but as an example, his real estate developments are being sold at significant discount over equivalent developments because of the toxicity of the brand. I believe the house of cards is starting to tumble as we watch. But something built on lies, intimidation, fraud and exploitation was always going to, it was a question of when.Pebble wrote: ↑18 Feb 2024, 10:13amIn no part of the definition does it suggest there has to be good. Anyone who can amass the following that he has is exceptional. He is one of the great snake oil salesmen of all time. Heck, folk are even crowd funding this billionaire - how has he got people to do that?cycle tramp wrote: ↑18 Feb 2024, 8:20amBut only because he is telling them, what they want to hear. If you look at some of the rhetoric it is rather quite close to the same that Adolf Hilter used...Pebble wrote: ↑18 Feb 2024, 12:30am I think he is a genius, he could have as many as 40% of the US hanging onto his every word, and you could not achieve that by being an idiot.
don't get me wrong here, I'm no fan boy. I would nearly be as happy to see him assassinated as Putin, Under estimate Trump at your peril
The the situation that Americans find themselves in is not their fault, that it is the fault of another group of people, whether they are Woke, or government agencies or the u.n. and that the only way America can be great again is if it frees themselves from these groups, by force if necessary. It's the same method played out in a number of papers sometimes on a monthly basis.
Adolf Hilter managed to convince enough people to turn on their neighbours (those of the Jewish faith, as well as Gypsies) contain them, before murdering them. If that style of thinking is 'genius' then it's a remarkably different type of meaning to the one I know.
Perhaps if politicians actually came clean and advised that the situations we find ourselves in, were in part down to our own live choices - we may at least feel empowered to do something about it.
I don't get it at all, Trump first popped onto my radar with the destruction of the SSSI Menie sand dunes for a golf course in Aberdeenshire - so he didn't get off to a good start with me.
as much as I despise him, I wouldn't be putting him in the same group as Hitler.
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MAGA are very cross with Fox News (formerly his staunchest supporters, of course) about this:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-presiden ... cmp=tw_fnc
I'm surprised he's so high
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As referenced above, "Former US President Donald Trump has launched his own line of Trump-branded shoes at Sneaker Con - a convention for sneaker fans in Philadelphia.
His appearance was met with loud boos as well as cheers after he presented a pair of the gold-coloured shoes being sold online for $399.
His move comes a day after a judge ordered him to pay nearly $355m (£281m) ...."
So 1.5m pairs will do the trick. There must be at least a couple of million of red-necks who would be proud to wear MAGA shoes.
His appearance was met with loud boos as well as cheers after he presented a pair of the gold-coloured shoes being sold online for $399.
His move comes a day after a judge ordered him to pay nearly $355m (£281m) ...."
So 1.5m pairs will do the trick. There must be at least a couple of million of red-necks who would be proud to wear MAGA shoes.
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Trump's ex Comms Director (of 11 days) speaking frankly. Worth a listen
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a ... 0645605839
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IndependentNancy Pelosi has suggested that Vladimir Putin probably has financial leverage over Donald Trump in damning allegations against the former president who failed to condemn the Russian leader following Alexei Navalny’s mysterious death in a Siberian prison.
Surely not?
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What surely not more lies from the Trump Republican party.Former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov who 'lied' about an alleged Biden family 'bribery scheme' with Ukrainians had 'high-level contacts with Russian intelligence operatives,' according to prosecutors.
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Even better on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juvfEZsZqUY, you may not like Anthony Scaramucchi (and to honest there's not much to like) but his analysis of Donald Trump is impressive. Well worth a watch.Bonefishblues wrote: ↑20 Feb 2024, 7:55am Trump's ex Comms Director (of 11 days) speaking frankly. Worth a listen
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a ... 0645605839
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The Rest is Politics is just superb. I eagerly look forward to the podcasts and I'm presently listening to one now.Stradageek wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 12:31pmEven better on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juvfEZsZqUY, you may not like Anthony Scaramucchi (and to honest there's not much to like) but his analysis of Donald Trump is impressive. Well worth a watch.Bonefishblues wrote: ↑20 Feb 2024, 7:55am Trump's ex Comms Director (of 11 days) speaking frankly. Worth a listen
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a ... 0645605839
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The News Agents is also excellent. Maitlis, Sopell and increasingly Goodall provide some outstanding analysis and have an interesting style. Spades are very much spades
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Agreed. Both the New Agents and TRIP are amongst my staples whilst at work. I don't miss any episodes.Bonefishblues wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 7:32pm The News Agents is also excellent. Maitlis, Sopell and increasingly Goodall provide some outstanding analysis and have an interesting style. Spades are very much spades
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Again, the jury said he didn’t rape anyone, applying the relevant legal definition used in that jurisdiction. Even the frequently dementedly left wing guardian accepted that amounted to them ‘clearing’ him of rape allegation https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... al-verdict
As for the judge claiming otherwise and attempting to apply their own definition, I say that, like so many other TDS sufferers, anyone attempting to pervert language to fit their world view deserves the same fate as Humpty Dumpty in Alice in Wonderland
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’