Default 20mph for Wales

[thirdcrank]

And now Bologna:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... 0kmh-limit

Jonathan

Anything to do with Spaghetti Junc....?

:oops:

[roubaixtuesday]

Continued good results from Wales

https://roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/compli ... ally-good/

[Bonefishblues]

How are the ksi statistics?

[Jdsk]

Continued good results from Wales

https://roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/compli ... ally-good/

Mmmmm... data.

Thanks for posting.

Jonathan

[roubaixtuesday]

How are the ksi statistics?

No idea, probably not early enough to judge?

[Bonefishblues]

Continued good results from Wales

https://roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/compli ... ally-good/

Mmmmm... data.

Thanks for posting.

Jonathan

Indeed.

Unlike our Manor!

[Jdsk]

How are the ksi statistics?

No idea, probably not early enough to judge?

Not studied in this analysis.

Jonathan

[Mike Sales]

How are the ksi statistics?

Another way to decide whether the measure is successful is whether cyclists feel safer, and ride more, and whether pedestrians feel more able to cross the road. More difficult to measure feelings of safety on the roads than count KSIs, of course, but it is also an aim of reducing traffic speeds.

[roubaixtuesday]

How are the ksi statistics?

Another way to decide whether the measure is successful is whether cyclists feel safer, and ride more, and whether pedestrians feel more able to cross the road. More difficult to measure feelings of safety on the roads than count KSIs, of course, but it is also an aim of reducing traffic speeds.

Yes, improving the environment for everyone is an important outcome, as well as direct safety results.

All evidence shows that people feel safer walking and cycling after such initiatives; if that resulted in more people doing so, you might expect a counterintuitive rise (or at least less than expected fall) in total casualties of these road users.

[Mike Sales]

How are the ksi statistics?

Another way to decide whether the measure is successful is whether cyclists feel safer, and ride more, and whether pedestrians feel more able to cross the road. More difficult to measure feelings of safety on the roads than count KSIs, of course, but it is also an aim of reducing traffic speeds.

Yes, improving the environment for everyone is an important outcome, as well as direct safety results.

All evidence shows that people feel safer walking and cycling after such initiatives; if that resulted in more people doing so, you might expect a counterintuitive rise (or at least less than expected fall) in total casualties of these road users.

Indeed.
Raw KSI numbers are a poor way to assess safety.
Such thinking tells us motorways are the safest roads.
At the same time breakdowns are advised to clamber over the crash barriers, since the road is so unsafe.

[Bonefishblues]

Sadly we have had two fatalities since the 20 mph limit was introduced in our village. That's never happened before. I don't think that the owner of the dogs which were killed feels it has contributed overmuch to improving safety yet, despite the .96 mph average speed reduction (we attempted some evaluation, unlike OCC)

[robing]

Where I live I would say > 90% of drivers don't comply with the 20 mph limit.

[mattheus]

It's made a huge difference on our estate (where most of the roads were never suitable for >20mph).
The main straight artery road - which runs past the Primary School - used to see speeds around 50mph at least once a week. That never happens now

Cycling through nearby villages with 20mph limits, drivers are very often reluctant to overtake. Although this is occasionally annoying - I'd rather they used a quick squirt of 25mph than sit behind us for miles - it's a good sign that many do respect the new limits.

[reohn2]

FWIW,I regularly travel North Wales where the vast majority of drivers comply with the new 20mph zones.
Not so much across the border in England though

[pwa]

It's made a huge difference on our estate (where most of the roads were never suitable for >20mph).
The main straight artery road - which runs past the Primary School - used to see speeds around 50mph at least once a week. That never happens now

Cycling through nearby villages with 20mph limits, drivers are very often reluctant to overtake. Although this is occasionally annoying - I'd rather they used a quick squirt of 25mph than sit behind us for miles - it's a good sign that many do respect the new limits.

I'm glad you are seeing an improvement. I'm not sure people have slowed down to the new limit, but I feel that people are tending to go at a bit less than 30, rather than a bit more than 30 as they did before.