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by reohn2
7 Apr 2024, 5:27pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

It's hard to find a more delusional set of liars as the Tory party....
by reohn2
7 Apr 2024, 9:45am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?
Replies: 135
Views: 5119

Re: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?

Carlton green wrote: 7 Apr 2024, 9:35am
reohn2 wrote: 7 Apr 2024, 9:22am
wheelyhappy99 wrote: 6 Apr 2024, 11:04pm

Bear in mind that the vast majority of new cars registered in the UK are not, in fact, bought. They are on PCP contracts, the cost of which is the depreciation plus interest. At the end of the (3 year?) contract the person who's driven it has been parked on doesn't own a wheel nut.
That's about the sum of it,if they can afford the monthly payments that's all that concerns them,it's like renting a house to live in for many.
To an extent I think that typifies a strain of thought that runs through society and has done so for decades. No long term planning or responsibility: manage today; enjoy today; and so what of tomorrow.
Not to the same extent as it is today IMHO.
by reohn2
7 Apr 2024, 9:32am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?
Replies: 135
Views: 5119

Re: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?

Nearholmer wrote: 6 Apr 2024, 11:58pm IMO, one of the things that makes this country feel so unpleasant at the moment is that people feel everything to be precarious, insecure, about to spin-off in a direction that makes their life worse, and that cuts differently for different people.

There are plenty of people who have well-paid jobs, and are actually comfortably off in a material sense, who can raise the loan to buy a £600k house and afford the PCPs on two cars to park outside it, but they feel that it could all be whipped away by some combination of climate change, the fragility of the economy, or by those who aren’t well-off demanding that they cough-up more of their share in the form of higher taxes, and they fear for their children’s futures.

There is a sizeable minority who are convinced that the country is about to be overrun by hordes of foreigners and turned into a sharia theocracy (There are! I know it’s mad, but people genuinely fear it!)

There is another sizeable minority who absolutely hate the idea of racial and/or gender equality, because they realise that if non-white people and/or women are no longer bottom of the pile, then they will be - their last vestige of self-esteem, that which comes from lording it over someone worse off than them, will be gone. And, of course, women and non-white people know that any semblance of equality that they have now is at peril.

There are many people who fear that the public services they value or rely upon are about to finally crumble before their eyes.

Many youngsters (which now means well into the 40s) can’t see a secure path into their futures because of very high housing costs, and the insecurity and/or low wages of employment open to them (and this goes even for many with good academic qualifications).

The threat of war seems more proximate than it’s been for decades.

Truth is no longer a fixed thing, but subject to naked manipulation, and everyone knows it.

If you can find me a person in this country who feels genuinely secure in every respect, their future not threatened in any way, from the richest to the poorest, of any age, race, creed, social background, or whatever, up to and including The King, I’ll be very surprised indeed.

The thing to bear in mind is that every 10% of society is faced by its own set of demons, with maybe climate change and war playing the role of meta-demons for everyone.

None of which is an answer to how long it might take to turn the ship, but it might point to some things to do to steady it before yanking the rudder over …… give enough people back some senses of security, remove enough of the fear for enough of the population, and it might be possible to do more.
I'd say that's a fair sumation of the state of the nation presently,I'd also add that successive Tory governments of the past 14 years has no small part in that state including the huge debacle that is Brexit.
by reohn2
7 Apr 2024, 9:22am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?
Replies: 135
Views: 5119

Re: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?

wheelyhappy99 wrote: 6 Apr 2024, 11:04pm
I struggle with the concept it is lack of money, going off the cars they drive, they must have an abundance of cash,
Bear in mind that the vast majority of new cars registered in the UK are not, in fact, bought. They are on PCP contracts, the cost of which is the depreciation plus interest. At the end of the (3 year?) contract the person who's driven it has been parked on doesn't own a wheel nut.
That's about the sum of it,if they can afford the monthly payments that's all that concerns them,it's like renting a house to live in for many.
by reohn2
7 Apr 2024, 9:19am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?
Replies: 135
Views: 5119

Re: Just how long will it take to turn this ship around?

Carlton green wrote: 6 Apr 2024, 11:05am
reohn2 wrote: 4 Apr 2024, 5:14pm Who are they?
They are all around us together with folk who are not “they”. Society is increasingly polarised.
Agreed!
I don’t live in a wealthy area yet some new three bedroom eco houses in the local ‘country side’ have recently sold for well over £600k. It’s a total puzzle to me who would buy them but someone has the completely silly money involved.
You need a hefty income for a £600k mortgage or even half that,there aren't many £600k houses in the area where I live and it isn't what I'd call a poor area.
by reohn2
3 Apr 2024, 12:23pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

How I wish this man,or someone with similar spherics,were leading the Labour party today,heaven knows it needs it:- https://youtu.be/vxazKvlzqT8?si=qDpopX4LkpPfNodo
by reohn2
3 Apr 2024, 12:07pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

toontra wrote: 2 Apr 2024, 4:23pm
al_yrpal wrote: 2 Apr 2024, 3:45pm With the forthcoming election in mind what beneficial and fairer policies do folk expect from the incoming labour government?

Al
Sadly - not much. Their inheritance from the last 14 years will be dire, and Starmer/Reeves seem extremely reluctant to do anything radical. Having said that, they couldn't possibly do worse than the Tories.
Just heard McFadden avoid the question when asked if Labour would stop the UK selling arms to Israel after yesterday's killing of UK aid workers.
I've also just found out that there are 73 Labour MPs who belong to the "Friends of Israel" organisation,go figure.
by reohn2
29 Mar 2024, 10:13am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

djnotts wrote: 29 Mar 2024, 8:05am All you need to know......again.

"Rishi Sunak is facing criticism after a major Conservative Party donor was given a knighthood.

Businessman Mohamed Mansour, a senior treasurer for the party, has been honoured for his business, charity and political service.

Last year he gave £5m, at the time the party's biggest donation since 2001." (BBC News)
Thay look after their own,a shame they don't look after the country in the same way......
by reohn2
27 Mar 2024, 2:01pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Jihadi Brides and their Children.
Replies: 582
Views: 24895

Re: Jihadi Brides and their Children.

pwa wrote: 27 Mar 2024, 11:31am The legality of the thing is one consideration, but the morality of it is another. I hate what Begum did, and even though she was young at the time I don't spend time agonising over her fate. But somebody somewhere has to have her on their territory, and why should we demand that it be another nation? She has created a mess, but it is our mess, nobody else's. Out of consideration for the people of the place where she currently is, I think we should bring her back to the UK. Not her for sake, but for theirs.
In a nutshell!
by reohn2
27 Mar 2024, 1:59pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UFOs
Replies: 184
Views: 8405

Re: UFOs

45minute Interview with Michio Kaku* renowned physicist on UFO/UAPs :- https://youtu.be/vEs-lrw_hhQ?si=DBYLea5fbh9Hc5E7


*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku
by reohn2
26 Mar 2024, 10:28am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Air Pollution - Will They Act Now?
Replies: 151
Views: 9343

Re: Air Pollution - Will They Act Now?

ANTONISH wrote: 26 Mar 2024, 9:53am
reohn2 wrote: 25 Mar 2024, 1:01pm
Pebble wrote: 25 Mar 2024, 12:34pm ........This is quite funny (sorry twitter link) Tory Mayoral Candidate for Manchester is campaigning against clean air...
https://twitter.com/LauraEvansTeam/stat ... 2362319110
pledges "we will not have any of these clean air zones in manchester"
She's an idiot like the rest of the Tories who've ruined this country!
I note that there is a row of parked cars in the background all partly on the pavement - presumably she isn't against that.
I wonder if her car is among them?
Probably....
by reohn2
25 Mar 2024, 4:10pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

by reohn2
25 Mar 2024, 4:01pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

I've just learned that Peter Bone,booted out of parliament for sex offences,was erroneously paid £5,600 severance pay for being a minister in the disasterous Truss government.Apparently he shouldn't have recieved the money because he was over 65.
He's now refusing to pay the money back on grounds of ageism.He's a multimillionaire apparently but it's the principle that counts....... .....yeah right,he'd know all there is to know about principals....
by reohn2
25 Mar 2024, 3:54pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: UK Politics
Replies: 969
Views: 77226

Re: UK Politics

Jdsk wrote: 25 Mar 2024, 3:40pm
reohn2 wrote: 25 Mar 2024, 3:33pm Are the Tories trying to eliminate young people from voting by having an October GE?
Here's a 15minute LBC video,though the first 5.30minutes puts a strong case forward for it:- https://youtu.be/qUAS4Q364ZI?si=FEHpC5GIPeOdt0kB

What with that and photo ID now needed to vote,there have been more Tory MPs done for sexual misconduct whilst in office than there have been people found guilty of voter fraud!

These people are the enemies of democracy!
Yes, I suspect that they might include this in their calculations.

But it could backfire as Universities respond by publicising the process for and advocating registration by students.

Jonathan
Only could be,students may well be preoccupied with the biggest change in their lives,leaving home,settling into new accommodation and reorganising their lives in total not to mention their apprehension of a new learning period in the lives and going out for a pint or three!