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by reohn2
20 Oct 2021, 4:58pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: How does the UK stop cutting off it's nose to spite it's face
Replies: 114
Views: 1741

Re: How does the UK stop cutting off it's nose to spite it's face

PhilD28 wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 3:35pm
reohn2 wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 7:17pm In case anyone has forgotten:- https://youtu.be/2u9gXdi-2uk
Straight from the farmers mouths, but how many who voted to leave will watch it and if they do how many will realise what they have done.
It's anyone's guess,but the facts are there for all to see.
Trouble is there's too many people suffering from the Brexit cult and don't want to see,those people suffer from the worst kind of blindness!
by reohn2
20 Oct 2021, 2:56pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

gbnz wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 2:42pm
Oldjohnw wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 9:32am The government has said they are not moving to Plan B. Which presumably means they are but, as ever, late.
Suppose at a certainl level, one's personal actions are of greater importance. Just as the lower socio economic groupings tend to be over represented in covid hospitalisations/deaths, they tend to die of cigarette, alcohol and junk food use, due to personal choice.
In a life of drudgery with no way out those "socio economic groupings" are surrounded by affluence everytime they step on the street or by moronic social and other media forms,anything that dulls the pain helps however damaging it may be in the long run.
Add to that poor education and you have the current situation.
So one's personal actions matter. Suppose it's time to return to a "covid" approach I.e. give the shops, buses, trains and town a miss, take a booster shot asap, take a booster shot asap
Agreed.
by reohn2
20 Oct 2021, 2:44pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Sir David Amess MP. RIP
Replies: 49
Views: 708

Re: Sir David Amess MP. RIP

horizon wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 1:51pm Whatever his attributes and beliefs, David Amess was a member of parliament and thus his murder is abhorrent on that level.
Agreed.
I would however question the reason for his death. The man who killed him is either insane (in the normal understanding of that word) or he did it as part of a campaign against the British state. AFAIK, it wasn't done in connection with the views of this particular MP and indeed, IIUIC, Davis Amess' views may be closer to those of the killer than those of many MPs in terms of traditional morality and such like.

The government characterises those who carry out acts of violence as "terrorists" and that their acts are another form of warfare in the absence of any coventional capabilty. I would like to know therefore with whom we are at war, why this is the case and what is being done about it. Labelling somebody as a terrorist as though that is the self-explanatory end of the matter isn't good enough.

The MP's murderer deserves whatever punishment is meted out - we deserve an explanation, one that seems to be missing from the media and government information. If the man is mad, then he is a lunatic and not a terrorist. If he is a terrorist then what he did has a rational basis and it is something we may need to confront. Otherwise David Amess' death is simply a prelude to further violence and, for the public, wasted tears. I wonder whether the wall-to-wall sympathetic coverage (which I actually don't object to given his role) is pushing more difficult issues off the table and out of sight.
I agree totally,but feel it's the subject of different and seperate thread,perhaps titled "Terrorism and the reasons for it in the UK today"
Please start the thread it could throw up some interesting discussion on the subject.
by reohn2
20 Oct 2021, 10:21am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

[XAP]Bob wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 9:52am
Oldjohnw wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 9:32am The government has said they are not moving to Plan B. Which presumably means they are but, as ever, late.
Plan B will be implemented just after the point at which Plan C is too late (or plan D maybe).

Of course all of that assumes that there is plan at all, rather than the current modus operandi which appears to be attempts to shape the answer to the question "What will the headlines be tomorrow?"
And is what you get with mindless morons more concerned with headlines and soundbites than sound headworx.
The moronic lunacy of this government beggars belief daily!
by reohn2
20 Oct 2021, 10:18am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

pwa wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 6:02am I confess that I don't understand your attitude. The line taken by Whitty about the possibility of boosters being required was always that they would study how immunity stood up in those who had been vaccinated, and make a decision based on that. That is what they have done. Immunity stands up quite well over time, much better than some had feared, but it does taper off and getting people to have a booster will reduce admissions into hospitals at a time when we need to keep hospitals working on other conditions. The point about the flu jab being annual is that flu is a bit like Covid in needing a top up vaccine. We were always told that this would be the case and I am struggling to understand why you are surprised about it. And when you get right down to what you are being asked to do, which is to pop down to a health centre or whatever, roll your sleeve up and have a tiny bit of discomfort for two seconds, then go back to what you were doing, it really is the smallest bit of inconvenience. If us doing that results in hospitals having a bit more space and time to deal with the backlog in work, let's do it.

You will, of course, do what you will do, but I suggest you consider the booster as something you do for society rather than just for yourself. It should help us keep hospitals open for folk who need heart ops, new hips or whatever, and it should reduce the need for restrictions on the way we live our lives.
The voice of reason.Spot on!
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 11:56pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Sir David Amess MP. RIP
Replies: 49
Views: 708

Re: Sir David Amess MP. RIP

661-Pete wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 7:18pm Debs, I'm sure we all understand where you're coming from, but this isn't the time or place......
Nail head on!
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 11:53pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

Pebble wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 11:41pm
I just don't get it - the other day when parliament was sitting mourning the loss of the MP, it was as though the whole tory side of the house were sitting cheek by jowl with very few, if any wearing masks. Are they purposefully sending out some sort of message and why? I don't believe they are collectively stupid or unthinking, so whats going on, there can not be any political gain in covid worsening!

And considering the vast amount of people who have died unnecessarily due to their mishandling of the pandemic.... Do they just not get the loss mere mortals feel when their loved ones needlessly die. Is a stabbing worse than dying alone in a care home from a virus you need not have caught if the MPs had been a little more astute and caring in their duties.
My bold
You don't?
Look at their leadership,then tell me thy're not stupid or unthinking!


These people are clever idiots who care nought for the ordinary wo/man on the street only for their own kind.
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 8:50pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

Pebble wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 8:04pm the way I see many people dropping their guard as if the pandemic is something from the past - I will be having my booster the moment I am offered it.
I agree on both counts.

It seems to me that when people in the UK get fed up of something,the pandemic restrictions in this case,they simply discard it,in this case masks and other safety restrictions.

IMO Johnson is incapable of any kind of leadership role his cabinet similarly so and the numptie element of the population just follow suit.

With winter just around the corner and potential flu and covid with it,my concern is if the NHS can cope.

I tire and fear a rudderless ship heading for the rocks on so mamy levels not just Covid! :evil:
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 8:41pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

Hellbound
What do you mean by moving on?
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 7:55pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid Booster. Yes/No?
Replies: 94
Views: 1463

Re: Covid Booster. Yes/No?

There are currently over 100 people dying in the UK from Covid!
Why are the government acting as if the pandemic is over or at least that the country's out of danger?
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 7:50pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Covid as an excuse for poor service
Replies: 30
Views: 2417

Re: Covid as an excuse for poor service

There are currently well over 100 people a day in the UK dying of Covid.
Why is the government acting as if the pandemic is over?
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 7:46pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Food Waste
Replies: 93
Views: 1445

Re: Food Waste

Food waste.
One word.
Pigs.
by reohn2
19 Oct 2021, 6:15pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Sir David Amess MP. RIP
Replies: 49
Views: 708

Re: Sir David Amess MP. RIP

Fulfathom5
Well said sir!