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by thirdcrank
15 Oct 2021, 1:10pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Drivers over penalty points allowed to drive?
Replies: 38
Views: 1221

Re: Drivers over penalty points allowed to drive?

Sorry. I missed the point of your query. "Speeding out of danger" is not a new excuse
by thirdcrank
15 Oct 2021, 10:32am
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Drivers over penalty points allowed to drive?
Replies: 38
Views: 1221

Re: Drivers over penalty points allowed to drive?

I think one problem is that so much stuff which is not directly relevant to this case is included it's hard to see the wood for the trees. In particular, two different aspects of licence endorsements are being treated as one.

First, if somebody is convicted of certain offences related to driving, then the conviction is recorded on the defendant's driving licence in addition to any penalty ie licence endorsed, unless the court finds special reasons for not doing so. IME (which is not recent) typically this might involve an offence committed by the driver of an emergency vehicle responding to an emergency.

Then, a series of endorsements within a set period normally results in a "totting up" disqualification. Obviously, if a conviction does not result in endorsement, it can't be counted towards totting up. Originally, all endorsements carried the same weight and it was "three strikes and you're out." More recently, different offences have attracted a different number of points and twelve points = disqualification, unless the court finds special reasons for not disqualifying eg the infamous exceptional hardship.

I've not dug out the links to the different bits of legislation through idleness. There are more results from learned friends offering their services than there is the info needed. If there's a surviving decent local rag in this part of Buckinghamshire, there may be a more coherent report of the court proceedings.

(I have mentioned before that sentencing decisions are something I try not to fret about so my knowledge of the rules isn't great without looking them up.)
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I think this is the local media report rehashed by road.cc

https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/1 ... sts-death/

I don't think it says anything different to the road.cc report, but it's not jumbled up with other stuff
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For anybody want to research what I've tried to cover above, a starting point is the Road Traffic (Offenders) Act, 1988. Part II covers endorsement and disqualification.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/53/contents
by thirdcrank
15 Oct 2021, 10:06am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Pump repair?
Replies: 13
Views: 286

Re: Pump repair?

I don't think you need to submerge it completely if that's a problem. Make a strong solution of washing-up liquid (in water) and coat it with that. The leak should be visible with a load of bubbles.

I'm not familiar with this pump but if the problem only occurs above a certain pressure, perhaps it's an internal valve.
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 5:15pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Route 74 has gone
Replies: 52
Views: 1011

Re: Route 74 has gone

I'll suggest that the best move forwards would be for the government to recognise that Tony Blair's wheeze of outsourcing to Sustrans has failed.

IMO Pete Owens is correct here in the Golden Age of Cycling thread

viewtopic.php?p=1646153#p1646153

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The thing that needs to change is to focus on outcomes rather than outputs - ie to fund local highway authorities by results.
On a minor point, I'd say "focus on outcomes rather than inputs," but that's probably nitpicking.

Put another way, it's not so much how much steam is raised but how far you move the train.
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 4:03pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Right number of murders a year?
Replies: 39
Views: 661

Re: Right number of murders a year?

Sarah Everard: Commissioner Philip Allott resigns

A police boss whose comments about the Sarah Everard case sparked outrage has resigned hours after a no-confidence vote.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-y ... e-58915325
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 3:57pm
Forum: Racing, Olympics, TdF, Competitive cycling
Topic: TdeF 2022
Replies: 4
Views: 103

Re: TdeF 2022

I thought that one of the points here was about the development of women's racing. While eight stages is fewer than the men's race, it's a development in what I presume élite women see as being the right direction. On it not being run alongside the men's event, I've read interviews with women in the past referring to the benefits of racing with spectators who are there mainly to see the men. Perhaps ASO and the police consider that two big races on the same closed roads on the same day is too much to organise. Keeping an open mind
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 2:00pm
Forum: Racing, Olympics, TdF, Competitive cycling
Topic: TdeF 2022
Replies: 4
Views: 103

TdeF 2022

Tour de France: Women's eight-stage race and men's 21-stage route revealed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/58912981

I see the women's event is starting on the last day of the men's ie not directly benefiting from being organised in conjunction with the TdeF
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 1:52pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Route 74 has gone
Replies: 52
Views: 1011

Re: Route 74 has gone

The risk is that the National Cycle Network is used by highwaymen and the like to take the line that other roads are not for cyclists, who can be ignored in plans.

If it is to serve any useful purpose, then it has to take its cue from the name ie to form a national network of routes suitable for cyclists. A hotch-potch of leisure routes which may or may not link by chance to form routes which may or may not be ok is not a national cycle network in any useful sense

All we seem to be seeing now is that the people living atop the ivory tower are displaying their displeasure by withdrawing their endorsement of bits of the NCN. One thing seems sure to me: the highwaymen couldn't care less.
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 10:51am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Assisted Dying
Replies: 78
Views: 1225

Re: Assisted Dying

You only get one life so it's best to live it
And this is about how that life ends.

(I know I introduced abortion into the discussion, but that was only to illustrate how a change in the law can lead to greater changes than anticipated.)
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 10:45am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Petty annoyances on the road....
Replies: 52
Views: 1127

Re: Petty annoyances on the road....

I'd say that not signally can be annoying but incorrect signalling can be dangerous. I do know that the Highway Code advises not to assume that a driver signalling will make the relevant manoeuvre (my words) but that just reinforces my point. A driver entering a roundabout intending to leave at the third exit and who signals left as they enter the roundabout - presumably on the basis that they intend eventually to exit the roundabout - is a menace imo
by thirdcrank
14 Oct 2021, 10:29am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Drink-drive get-out?
Replies: 33
Views: 636

Re: Drink-drive get-out?

AIUI, following the shooting murders earlier this year carried out by a man whose shotgun certificate had been returned to him by the police, disciplinary proceedings are pending against two people involved. Purely supposition on my part, but I suspect this revolves round using a criminal justice model to make the decision ie a version of "can we prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that he represents a danger to the public?" rather than something along the lines of "can we be sure he doesn't represent a danger to the public?" My reason for thinking this is that most police work is based on the former

Now, the right to hold a driving licence isn't to very much different from the right to hold a firearms licence
by thirdcrank
13 Oct 2021, 2:41pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Drink-drive get-out?
Replies: 33
Views: 636

Re: Drink-drive get-out?

I've been serious all the way through.

IMO part of the problem here is using a criminal justice model to determine a matter of public health and safety.

Using the blood/alcohol reading reported by the media, this defendant - had she been convicted - was a tad below the dangerous offender level ie before her licence could be returned after the disqualification she would have had to take medical tests to prove she wasn't alcohol dependent. (My words.) Now, unconvicted, the regulations assume she's risk-free driving a car.
by thirdcrank
13 Oct 2021, 10:51am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: National Trust Elections
Replies: 24
Views: 379

Re: National Trust Elections

Why should taxpayers subsidise churches and private schools, for example?
If it's not clear, that's part of the case I'm making. They shouldn't or rather, if things are to receive state finance - ultimately "taxpayers" - then it should be allocated by the state.

This came about to facilitate the passage of rich men through the eyes of needles, or rather to guarantee them a passage through the Pearly Gates. As I said, it's an anachronism. IMO
by thirdcrank
13 Oct 2021, 10:45am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Drink-drive get-out?
Replies: 33
Views: 636

Re: Drink-drive get-out?

We can't have this both ways. Shortly after the crash her blood alcohol is reported to have been recorded on the definitive machine as almost four times the limit. Her defence seems to have been that she reached that level entirely through drinking in the immediate aftermath of the crash. One way or another, the defendant got a lot of alcohol into her body in a very short time.
by thirdcrank
13 Oct 2021, 10:37am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: National Trust Elections
Replies: 24
Views: 379

Re: National Trust Elections

I'm talking about the entire charity sector(?)

As a large part of the reason for its existence is to benefit from tax relief, it seems obvious to me that the biggest beneficiaries are likely to be those liable to pay the most tax. Then, in spite of more recent protests, the biggest beneficiaries of charity provision tend to be the most well-off. In short the concept of "charity" has tended to preserve the class-based structure of our society.

So much of modern life depends on spin, and the authors/ translators of the Authorised / King James Version of the Bible have inadvertently turned out to be excellent spinners ie charity is beyond reproach.

What would be lost if a wave of a magic wand repealed charity laws overnight? And how much of that would be replaced by state provision? AFAIK, quite a lot of charities depend on grants from public funds anyway.

And while I'm on, voluntary tax payments in the form of National Lottery betting are not IMO a sound basis for funding charities, especially as this has morphed into "good causes."