You must be looking at different papers to the ones normally published under those names.roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑7 Mar 2024, 9:56amThe Guardian is not remotely the mirror image of the Mail. It's not even the mirror image of the Telegraph.pete75 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 3:09pmIf the Guardian is to be believed anymore than it's mirror image, the Daily Mail, then it isn't.freiston wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 1:58pm
Is that still the case?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -in-prison
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- 9 Mar 2024, 12:28am
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: Ex-Post Office CEO Paula Vennells
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- 1 Mar 2024, 9:56pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: UK Politics
- Replies: 936
- Views: 72551
Re: UK Politics
Nah, if that were the case we would still be in the EU.pwa wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 9:51pmSurely the traditional British way is to vote for the least worst option. Whichever that is. Vote to avoid the worst of the likely outcomes.reohn2 wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 8:05pm+1 no party where I live is attracting my vote,so I'll probably do the same .853 wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 6:13pm
I've decided that unless a new party, that I genuinely agree with, put ups a candidate in my constituency I'll be spoiling my ballot paper. I think I'm likely to add a new row at the bottom with the words "None of the above sewage* " and putting a cross by that.
I think it is important to vote, but I also think it is import to express our disgust at the current political parties and their warped views. Maybe if enough voters tell the current political parties that they're sewage, on the ballot paper, they'll take notice.
* Or something similar
- 1 Mar 2024, 9:55pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: UK Politics
- Replies: 936
- Views: 72551
Re: UK Politics
TBH I don't think it makes any difference. During my lifetime I don't recall any changes, either good or bad, to my lifestyle regardless of which party is in power.If you're either very welathy or poor it does matter. Looking at the Brexit vote and Redwall vote at the last election it appears the poor don't realise how their vote matters.reohn2 wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 8:05pm+1 no party where I live is attracting my vote,so I'll probably do the same .853 wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 6:13pmI've decided that unless a new party, that I genuinely agree with, put ups a candidate in my constituency I'll be spoiling my ballot paper. I think I'm likely to add a new row at the bottom with the words "None of the above sewage* " and putting a cross by that.Mike Sales wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 1:23pm Once every few years we have our chance to act in this democracy.
Showing our political views in any other way is increasingly difficult, and frowned on. We are told that we have demonstrated our views and should now shut up.
Choosing how to use my very important and valuable vote is difficult.
Should I vote for the big party I would prefer to be in government, because it is marginally better than the other big party whose policies I detest even more?
I think it is important to vote, but I also think it is import to express our disgust at the current political parties and their warped views. Maybe if enough voters tell the current political parties that they're sewage, on the ballot paper, they'll take notice.
* Or something similar
- 1 Mar 2024, 9:46pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: UK Politics
- Replies: 936
- Views: 72551
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And you think the Tories will be able to keep the far right under control, or maybe will have the far right as ministers like Kemi Badenough?Pebble wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 8:23pm I quite like Starmer, he is more middle of the road and hope he wins (just hope he can keep the far left under control)
I will be voting tory, not that I want them to win but my MP is not only a cyclist but a good local MP, and when I have asked for help he has been very good. I think his average time in responding to any email I send him is probably under 10 minutes !
Your MP is not replying to you that quickly, it's his staff, probably family members, and paid for by us taxpayers. BTW what's the response, an anser to your query or an acknowledgement? If the latter it's automatic.
- 1 Mar 2024, 7:06pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: UK Politics
- Replies: 936
- Views: 72551
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Oh give it a read. He's a bit of a comedian, writing "I love this country. My family and I owe it so much." - not least all the tax his wife used non-dom status to avoid.djnotts wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 6:51pmBut when his words include "Britain is a patriotic, liberal, democratic society with a proud past and a bright future. We are a reasonable country and a decent people. ....." I can't even be bothered reading the rest.Jdsk wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 6:16pm Very strangely pitched speech from the Prime Minister:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/we- ... xtremists/
Jonathan
- 1 Mar 2024, 6:57pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: UK Politics
- Replies: 936
- Views: 72551
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Same here. The only so called democracy in a safe seat is the local party selection commitee voting to choose a candidate.Mike Sales wrote: ↑1 Mar 2024, 1:23pm Once every few years we have our chance to act in this democracy.
Showing our political views in any other way is increasingly difficult, and frowned on. We are told that we have demonstrated our views and should now shut up.
Choosing how to use my very important and valuable vote is difficult.
Should I vote for the big party I would prefer to be in government, because it is marginally better than the other big party whose policies I detest even more?
Should I vote rather for the candidate of the little party whose policies I really believe would be best for the country?
In fact, like most of us, my vote is very unlikely to make any difference to the outcome, because we do not live in a marginal constituency
I suppose I will vote as I believe, in the faint hope that if enough of us do that, we can send a sign to the big party that we would like it to move a bit in a particular direction.
I consult the tactical voting website, but it offers little hope.
I don't think that this seems much like a democracy in which my vote counts, but I know people in many other countries have even less agency in deciding their own fate.
- 28 Feb 2024, 6:45pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
- Replies: 1865
- Views: 82077
Re: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
No the USA is not controlled by NATO. I think you'll find it's the other way round.Carlton green wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 5:18pmIs there just the USA controlled by NATO? I really don’t think that that’s the case at all. China does its own thing, India and Pakistan do their own thing, Much of Africa does its own thing and so does much of South America. The USA has much influence, that’s undoubted, but its powers are in disarray and that’s thanks - I believe - to negative external influences.pete75 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2024, 5:03pmTime was the so called super powers divided much of the world into two blocks. The USA with NATO and the Soviet Union with the Warsaw pact. Now there's just the USA controlled block, NATO. Do you really think the USA doesn't hold the same views you ascribe to Putin?
As for Ukraine, the people there should be free to choose their future and the future they’d like is a democratic one and a prosperous one; the acts of and invasion by their neighbour smashes that future and subjects them to alien rule by unfriendly and uncaring powers.
- 28 Feb 2024, 5:03pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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Time was the so called super powers divided much of the world into two blocks. The USA with NATO and the Soviet Union with the Warsaw pact. Now there's just the USA controlled block, NATO. Do you really think the USA doesn't hold the same views you ascribe to Putin?UpWrong wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 4:04pmThe world isn't a chess board to be divided up between the superpowers. That's Putin's twisted view of the world. To him, life is a power game and little people and little countries don't count. Ukranians want to trade with and align with the EU.Biospace wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 7:28pm Before we head yet further into this war, it could be in our interests to consider the bigger picture and consider whether Russia has reacted as it has because of NATO and EU expansion which has been ongoing since the 1990s. Asking why it's so important to the US for Ukraine to be incorporated in to the West, as well as so many other former USSR nations, rather than left as a neutral border state may form a good start.
- 26 Feb 2024, 7:44pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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Those reasons might be related to the fact around 80% of Tory MPs are memebers of an organisation called Conservative Friends of Israel. Shame a few more aren't friends of the UK.Nearholmer wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 7:36pm I absolutely do not understand why the government thinks it’s in our interests to continue to support Israel, either tacitly by not putting greater pressure on them, or, if indeed we are, by continuing to supply weapons. Leaving aside all moral considerations for the moment, I don’t understand why it might be a good idea from a purely practical/strategic perspective.
It reminds me of when Blair launched us into war on the basis of the dodgy dossier, I remember saying to a friend “he’d bl@&dy well better know something we don’t”, meaning that on the basis of information available to the public it seemed completely unjustifiable. Of course, he didn’t know something the rest of us didn’t, and I strongly suspect that the government now doesn’t have cogent, arguable reasons for failing to condemn and cut-off Israel …… it might have, but I strongly suspect that it doesn’t.
- 26 Feb 2024, 4:41pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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Thye currently don't have a right of sovereignty over what were large parts of their country. They are now part of another country or will be before too long. We shouldn't be reinforcing failure.Nearholmer wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 4:14pm So, Biospace, sticking with the simple point that Ukrainians have a right of sovereignty over their country, and not diverting into other interesting topics: in what way is it wrong to support them in their attempt to maintain that sovereignty?
- 26 Feb 2024, 4:27pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
- Replies: 1865
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It won't be self determination for the Proddies will it?Jdsk wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 3:45pmIf reunification occurs by self-determination why would I be "mistaken"?pete75 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 3:43pmMany conflicts have been the result of what happened at "some particular historical point" and revisiting or changing what happened has resolved the conflict.Jdsk wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 3:27pm
Very good.
Harking back to some particular geographical demarcation at some particular historical point should never be expected to resolve a current conflict.
Instead we should look for how self-determination can best be delivered.
Fortunately subjects of the UK and citizens of Ireland have a recent example of how looking to the future can work better than looking to the past.
If your last senetence is referring to Northern Ireland you may well be mistaken. It's looking increasingly likely that Ireland will be reunited, reversing Britain's geographical demarcation of the country into two parts.
Thanks
Jonathan
- 26 Feb 2024, 3:43pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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Many conflicts have been the result of what happened at "some particular historical point" and revisiting or changing what happened has resolved the conflict.Jdsk wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 3:27pmVery good.roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 1:39pmLoving the casual allocation of "formerly Russian" territory, and I for one am definitely looking forward to returning to being part of the Danelaw. Rule from Kobenhavn would definitely be better than what we have now, I guess.
Harking back to some particular geographical demarcation at some particular historical point should never be expected to resolve a current conflict.
Instead we should look for how self-determination can best be delivered.
Fortunately subjects of the UK and citizens of Ireland have a recent example of how looking to the future can work better than looking to the past.
Jonathan
If your last senetence is referring to Northern Ireland you may well be mistaken. It's looking increasingly likely that Ireland will be reunited, reversing Britain's geographical demarcation of the country into two parts.
- 26 Feb 2024, 3:35pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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The Donetsk and Crimea were historically Russian with most of the population being ethnic Russians. For administrative purposes Krutschev put them into the Ukrainian SSR in the fifties.roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 1:39pmYes, of course, the airborne assault and huge ground attack on Kyiv were just sacrificial.Biospace wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 1:30pmI agree that's the most likely outcome and quite possibly what Putin had intended originally. A friend travelled through the Donbas years ago and I remember a remark that he couldn't understand how large parts had become Ukrainian territory, purely based on his observations of the people and culture.
Loving the casual allocation of "formerly Russian" territory, and I for one am definitely looking forward to returning to being part of the Danelaw. Rule from Kobenhavn would definitely be better than what we have now, I guess.
The Danelaw was not ruled by Denmark but by folk of Danish and Norse origin living within it.
- 26 Feb 2024, 1:23pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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He does know he's in no position to find a conventional war against NATO, so won't attack Poland or the Baltics, as the more paranoid amongst us seem to think. I suspect they'll be some sort of negotiated peace treaty, with the formerly Russian parts of the Ukraine ceded back to Russia. They're already de facto Russia, so it won't make a lot of difference.
- 26 Feb 2024, 12:45pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: War on Our Doorstep: How do we respond?
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So little damage he managed to win the next election with a large majority. If I was PM I'd welcome that sort of damage.