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by stu1102
16 Oct 2019, 7:18am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

stu1102 wrote:A while back MickF asked how much had Brexit cost the economy the answer then was approx. 40 £ Billion

Latest figures from the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS) and Citi Bank study revea in todays 'Times' l:

Economy is about £60 billion smaller than if the country had voted to remain in the EU

The economy is between 2.5 and 3% smaller than if Britain had voted to remain in the EU

IFS forecasts Johnson will need an extension but even with that growth would remain at 1%. The economy would continue to suffer from uncertainty with business investment 15-20% lower than if Britain had remain in the EU

Whilst UK business investment was among the highest of developed countries before the referendum it has now fallen to its lowest



Notes to self

A fully funded and staffed teaching hospital takes about £10billion to get off the ground


Latest figures based IFS, FT and Bloomberg data

£76 Billion =Economy is about £76 billion smaller than if the country had voted to remain in the EU


£76 billion gets you 3,307,400 nurses at £23.000 a week

£76 billion gets you 42 new hospitals

£76 Billion gets you 3,924.000 police officers at 19k each roughly

BUT REMEMBER

There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside

David Davis
10 October 2016

Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards

John Redwood
July 17 2016
by stu1102
8 Oct 2019, 9:09am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 21765
Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

A while back MickF asked how much had Brexit cost the economy the answer then was approx. 40 £ Billion

Latest figures from the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS) and Citi Bank study revea in todays 'Times' l:

Economy is about £60 billion smaller than if the country had voted to remain in the EU

The economy is between 2.5 and 3% smaller than if Britain had voted to remain in the EU

IFS forecasts Johnson will need an extension but even with that growth would remain at 1%. The economy would continue to suffer from uncertainty with business investment 15-20% lower than if Britain had remain in the EU

Whilst UK business investment was among the highest of developed countries before the referendum it has now fallen to its lowest



Notes to self

A fully funded and staffed teaching hospital takes about £10billion to get off the ground
by stu1102
21 Aug 2019, 9:16pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

It’s all clear to me now regarding leaving the EU

The EU is undemocratic and we shouldn’t have to pay for all their elections.

We can have transitional arrangements without agreeing what we are transitioning to.

Immigrants have been taking our jobs, and are also work-shy and stealing public services


Free trade is good and we must leave all our free trade agreements to achieve it.

Referendums on leaving unions are good for the UK, but not for Scotland or Northern Ireland.

Everyone knew what Brexit they voted for, but the Tory leadership candidates couldn’t agree what that actually was.

No-deal Brexit is simultaneously no problem at all, and so bad that merely threatening it will make the EU do whatever we want

The more Brexiters insist there are solutions to the Irish border issue the less the backstop should be a problem for them

All courtesy of various twitter inputs
by stu1102
18 Aug 2019, 9:40am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

mercalia wrote:seems like the only people who will be seriously affected by Brexit food wise are the drinkers?

eu imports.JPG

But I suppose cheap Dutch pork will end?



Here is the full link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47470864
by stu1102
17 Aug 2019, 8:27am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

2016: TURKEY ARE JOINING THE EU!!!

Scunthorpe votes 68.68% for leave

2019: British Steel in Scunthorpe goes into administration because of Brexit

Turkey buys British Steel Scunthorpe and saves 4,500 jobs

…………………………..


courtesy of RussellEngland\twitter
by stu1102
30 Jul 2019, 10:55am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

BBC Politics
@BBCPolitics
· 29 Jul
"£4bn has been allocated to the process of leaving the EU already" says Foreign Secretary Dominic Rabb
by stu1102
30 Jul 2019, 7:27am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

From Simon Schama

can someone please stand up and start shouting (it wont be the weasel Corbyn) "YOU ARE NOT CHURCHILL, fatso, and the EU is not the Third Reich. You do not have a war cabinet because THERE IS NO WAR. How DARE you invoke the sacrifices of those that fought one

Ed Conway
(@EdConwaySky)
On the bright side, the pound sterling is not the worst performing currency in the world today. That accolade goes to the Madagascan Ariary. The pound, on the other hand, is only the second-worst performing currency in the entire world

From the Telegraph

‘Tens of millions of pounds to be spent on marketing blitz warning Britons about how to prepare for a no deal Brexit over the next 3 months.

The spending on billboards, radio and TV will be biggest public information campaign since the end of WW2.’

It’s good to know that it will not be spent on the NHS
by stu1102
25 Jul 2019, 6:36pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

'can you really imagine that the new Cabinet will support anyone other than the wealthy and privileged? '

No not at all, but based on my small evidence from my home village in the Scottish Borders this will be the last Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
by stu1102
25 Jul 2019, 3:19pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

al_yrpal wrote:...............….They have now got a Cabinet running the country that has confidence in our ability to run our own affairs. About time....

Al



'there is not a single member of the new cabinet who has ever successfully implemented any policy whatsoever

And from a party which has been in government for *nine years*'

Source David Allen Green lawyer and writer @FT
by stu1102
25 Jul 2019, 2:06pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Mick F wrote:
roubaixtuesday wrote:That's because you're deliberately ignoring the whole picture - you're asking a loaded question
No I'm not.
Not at all.

I don't know if you've noticed, but I've not been on this thread for a while.
Bored silly with it, and after this post, I'll be off again.

Not deliberately ignoring anything about the "whole picture" at all.
It was an innocent question not partisan at all.

I received an answer.
End of.


Mick if your interested this where some of the money given via the EU to Cornwall went;

Here are 31 EU-funded projects in Cornwall https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornw ... ash-746128

Its worth looking through the projects but you just need to get rid of the pop ups that plague Cornwall Live
by stu1102
23 Jul 2019, 5:40pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Mick F wrote:
Oldjohnw wrote:And Farage et al can send back all the cash they received. And the farmers. And communities all around the UK.
Not taking sides here, and not making a point.

Question:

There's only so much money about.
If we pay the EU our dues, and we get money back for fishing and farming and Objective One etc, what's the balance?
If the balance is zero or thereabouts, why pay out and then receive?
Are we financially in profit or loss?

Not counting other benefits with respect to free movement, free trade, free anything etc etc etc.
Just payments versus receipts.
Are we in profit are are we in debt or are we balanced?

Does anyone know?


The current analysis is that to quote;

'National Income and living standards are a good 2% or £40 billion a year lower than they would have been'....source Paul Johnson Director of the Institute of Fiscal Studies as Paul indicates in his article The Times July 22nd 'the impact of the Brexit vote has played out almost as predicted'
source https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14260

https://www.ifs.org.uk/


Before anyone shouts Project Fear please show contrary empirical analysis to refute the above
by stu1102
16 Jul 2019, 3:07pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

stu1102 wrote:Yes agreed BUT what we can say the pound is now trading at its lowest level since 1994, historically, the British Pound reached an all time high of 2.86 in December of 1957 and a record low of 1.05 in February of 1985 and since the referendum has fallen from its value 1.50 on the night of the referendum to its current trading level of 1.25

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No downsides, only considerable upsides to Brexit (David Davis)


'The pound sterling is the worst performing major currency in the world over the past 24 hours, over the past month, over the past three months and over the past year' https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky
by stu1102
15 Jul 2019, 8:23am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
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Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Sir Paul Maxime Nurse FRS FMedSci HonFREng HonFBA MAE, is an English geneticist, former President of the Royal Society and Chief Executive and Director of the Francis Crick Institute. He was awarded the 2001 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine along with Leland Hartwell and Tim Hunt for their discoveries of protein molecules that control the division of cells in the cell cycle.

Roger Helmer a former MEP for the East Midlands indicated on his Twitter account:
Prof Paul Nurse is saying that scientists see Brexit as “turning our backs not just on Europe, but on the world”. He fears loss of funding and of visiting experts. He is exactly and diametrically wrong. As my old Mother used to say, “You intelligent people have no Common Sense”.


Prof Nurse is correct . UK groups lead 60% fewer research consortia, British collaborators are now often regarded as risk factors in a proposal rather than an asset the drop in medical research collaborative groups EU and UK has been dramatic since Brexit vote
by stu1102
13 Jul 2019, 8:31am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 21765
Views: 849805

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Yes agreed BUT what we can say the pound is now trading at its lowest level since 1994, historically, the British Pound reached an all time high of 2.86 in December of 1957 and a record low of 1.05 in February of 1985 and since the referendum has fallen from its value 1.50 on the night of the referendum to its current trading level of 1.25

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