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Whether it says change lanes, 1m, 1.5m or any other distance can be hammered out when/if it ever gets to legislation – and that's a long way from a motion at CTC AGM! What's important IMO is that there is something concrete and that becomes an accepted part of "how you drive". As I've sai...

Steady rider wrote:To measure passing distances, bicycle equipped with a LIDAR to collect overtaking data can be used. https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=LIDAR

But what use is data collection when trying to prosecute? This isn't the sort of technology that even 10% will be able to have on their bikes.

Same thing surely? No one's going round with a tape measure; "That was only 99cm, you're nicked!" or even "There's only 99cm, I'll wait." It's about having a rough idea and even about realising there is such a thing. That "didn't hit" isn't enough. Of course drivers wa...

The difference is that people don't want to obey laws about copying music, because they want the music. As has been mentioned already in this thread, passing distances (in this country, so no legal considerations and a fairly consistent culture) tend to vary with the availability of road width and ...

Yes, we already know what the distance is in the event of a collision, but how rarely are motorists who collide with cyclists convicted of any offence? At least a minimum distance law would give a near-certain consolation punishment :( I think from this the argument in the need to tackle the issues...

I campaign for infrastructure as a priority, but they are not mutually exclusive and adopting the proposed policy does not commit existing resources to it. So what is more effective: adopting a policy in favour of a minimum passing distance and letting it sit on the books, or rejecting it and sendi...

x3XhaxYzpH8 This is an effective measure against close passes in action. This required hard campaigning. A distance passing law requires hard campaigning. We have limited campaigning resources, and policy makers have a limited amount of resources to follow through on the campaigns. So, what is more...

You know what is also common sense: that if you leave a jumper on top of a black car on a hot day in the sun, the black car will be ''hotter''. Oh wait, no, they are the same temperature. In other words, common sense is useless. Now, has anyone got evidence showing that a distance passing law is act...

The A10 is *the* North South route so I don't think any rerouting could be possible. As the author said, through traffic has to go somewhere. The A10 is a good choice because it is plenty wide, although at least one bus lane would have to go if you were to add cycle trakcs. Here is a video of the A1...

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but this was a pretty interesting response to Hill's arguments. https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.c ... a-fallacy/

Even at 20mph (which I think it already is at Kingsland High Street, plus with measures to slow traffic), the volume of traffic is too high for cycling to be made a possibility. I meant protected cycle tracks, proper side road treatment, and protection at junctions.

Vorpal I understand most of what you have written, and it is true they take a more holistic approach. My point is that if we were to take the same approach, the A10 would need cycling infrastructure. It doesn't spoil anything in Kingsland High Street as the space would from the carriageway.

Fine I give up. However, after cycling all over Hackney, no one will convince me that it is good for cycling. Until Stops is willing to concede of a backbone network of direct cycle routes, I consider him an impediment. What the Dutch have achieved is 'greater' than Hackney, so it is hypocritical to...

Well Vincent is someone who is completely against it. Really: http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2015/05/hackney-council-to-build-the-uks-first-dual-zebra-crossing/ Hackney Councillor, Vincent Stops said: “This pedestrian and cycling crossing looks to be a great innovation and seems to suit the locat...

More on that topic here: http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/oct/05/bike-lane-blues-london-local-businesses-cycle-enfield-green-lanes Has anyone had one of those nasty yellow leaflets or posters, as depicted in the article, inflicted on them yet? And how does one counter this nonsense? Oh dear! ...