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by CJ
15 Apr 2021, 12:37pm
Forum: Does anyone know … ?
Topic: Toe Overlap
Replies: 78
Views: 3015

Re: Toe Overlap

531colin wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 8:58pmI think U-turns are all about confidence; I can think of 3 possible confidence-inspiring changes with that bike...
lack of overlap
calm steering
(potentially) better weight distribution
Lower bottom-bracket (to suit 165mm cranks and shorter legs) so she can actually get a toe to the floor - like an average height male expects to - surely helps in that regard.

Most small women's bikes have not only toe overlap, but also ridiculously high bottom-brackets, and I think that's one reason so few women become really confident cyclists. With experience one can overcome that hurdle - all MTBs have high pedals for good reason - but if your first 'good' road bike worries you about falling if you stop, it takes unusual courage to gather the necessary experience.
by CJ
15 Apr 2021, 12:15pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

markjohnobrien wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 1:30pmThat’s fascinating - thanks. I’m sure I remember an article of yours where your daughter rode a Raleigh Randonneur (red one, last model) and it had done lots of rides and mileage.
That Randonneur was originally 'chocolate & cream', the early model, and a gift from a friend for whom it was really too big. We had it reprayed red for Amy, who still uses the bike although it soon became a bit small. The length is good however, so I made it slightly taller with one of those Stronglight extended head-nuts.
by CJ
14 Apr 2021, 11:22am
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

For your interest, here's a list of ALL the bikes I bought after reviewing them in the 31 years I was CTC's main reviewer.
  1. Dawes Ranger MTB - used regularly for a couple of years before being added to the collection of a fellow member of staff.
  2. Giant Track MTB - for which Giant didn't want any money, and benefitted nevertheless from it's regular appearance in Cycle as a 'clotheshorse' for other pieces of kit, as this was my only MTB for at least a decade, then passed to my children, was converted to an expedition bike and eventually lost by my intrepid daughter in a Chilean landslide!
  3. Thorn Audax - my one and only 'fast' tourer for 20+ years, now for sale due to lack of space and because I can't afford to give it the respray it really needs (one doesn't get much of a pension from a lifetime of service to CTC).
  4. Hewitt Cheviot SE - my main touring bike for several years and was then passed on to my son, who still uses it.
  5. Cannondale Tesoro - this German style 'trekking bike' remains my everyday utility bike and evermore will do so.
  6. Ridgeback Horizon - mainly used by son and now my daughter's road/audax bike.
  7. Spa Ti Tourer - became my main touring bike some 10 years ago and will probably remain in that role.
I think that's all. It should be obvious that I've never reviewed bikes to sell at a profit and acquired only those that were useful to me and my immediate family.
by CJ
14 Apr 2021, 10:33am
Forum: Using the Forum - request help : report difficulties
Topic: Sales methods - should prices be included?
Replies: 52
Views: 564

Re: Sales methods - should prices be included?

PH wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 10:20amI might sell something cheaper to an enthusiast who tells me it's just what they're looking for, than to someone who intends re-selling elsewhere.
Me too, but unless one already knows the buyer, how can one tell?
by CJ
14 Apr 2021, 10:22am
Forum: Using the Forum - request help : report difficulties
Topic: Sales methods - should prices be included?
Replies: 52
Views: 564

Re: Sales methods - should prices be included?

Bonefishblues wrote: 14 Apr 2021, 8:08am Is it a particular issue (even if happening) and if so, how would it be controlled?
Sealed bids seems like one pretty good deterrent! ;-)
by CJ
13 Apr 2021, 6:17pm
Forum: Does anyone know … ?
Topic: Toe Overlap
Replies: 78
Views: 3015

Re: Toe Overlap

531colin wrote: 1 Feb 2021, 1:15pm Some suitable numbers.....
71 deg 54mm offset
70.5 deg. 59mm offset
My Holdsworth Mystique gravel bike frame, that I chose as the basis for a clubrun/audax style of bike in order to get actual (not just pretend) mudguard and toe clearance in carbon, has 71° & 50mm, so 67mm of trail. That's more than I'd have thought ideal, a LOT more than the Thorn Audax it replaces (72° & 55mm = 52mm) and did feel very different at first, but not a problem and now seems just normal. I guess it's good to have more trail when using low-drag tyres, as I aim to do always but especially on a clubrun bike (28mm Conti GP4000).

When I designed a small titanium touring frame and fork for my wife I specified (and got) 70° & 60mm, so 63mm trail with 37-622 tyres. She's delighted with it, finds it steers better than most of the bikes she's ever had. She normally finds U-turns scary, but did one with her first down-the-street-and-back trial of the new bike. I was mightily relieved! Getting a frame expensively made to an untried design for your partner: that's really scary!
by CJ
13 Apr 2021, 5:25pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

Cyril Haearn wrote: 12 Apr 2021, 6:57pm May one ask how much you paid for it in 1997?
You may, but I don't have the receipt. What I do remember is that St John Street's policy on review bikes was to charge the notional trade price, and the usual retail margin on complete bikes at that time was 30%. According to my review the RRP was £1021, so I expect I paid about £785.
by CJ
13 Apr 2021, 5:03pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

Vorpal wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 4:38pm The discussion of sales methods has been split off to viewtopic.php?f=19&t=145251
Many thanks.
by CJ
13 Apr 2021, 4:29pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

Cyril Haearn wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 3:23pmMay one ask how many miles it has done?
You may, but I honestly don't know. Barring a couple of months after the CTC office moved I've never commuted on it and rarely used it for actual touring, mainly just weekend day-rides in not too bad weather when not using the tandem or some other bike. So I'd estimate 50 miles a week for half of 20 years = 50×50×10 = 25 thousand. The original rims wore out only one or two thousand miles ago - but I don't use the 'energy wasters' very much! And I think it's needed a new chain every couple of years on average, so probably got through a dozen of those - if that's any help.
by CJ
13 Apr 2021, 4:14pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

I did not put my bike up for sale on this forum to have the manner of its selling raked over by people who obviously have no interest in buying it. I naively assumed that here I might find people who appreciate that whilst 1990s steel-framed bikes come up for sale all the time, very few are as well designed and precisely made as the early Thorn Audax.

Coincidentally however, there's another one for sale on Ebay right now. It's even the same colour and size (but longer so wouldn't suit my short torso). There's also a more recent Thorn Brevet - not such a nice bike IMHO - at £550 and an imacculate Roberts for £1170. So I don't know why nobody's yet snapped up that Thorn Audax for only £480! I guess it must be that very few people realise that most bikes of that type merely pretend to have enough room for mudguards - so long as you don't mind kicking the front one to bits or clogging with mud whenever you ride past a wet farmyard! But then, even the person selling it hasn't fitted any. And a lot of 90s 'audax' bikes or 'light tourers' (including that Roberts) have 130mm rear ends, rather than the Thorn's 135mm for less wheel dish (hence a stronger rear wheel, which is the achilles heel of any bike that's ridden long distances) and better chain alignment (hence efficiency) in low gears.

So if you press me - as you have - I think this bike may be worth at least £500 to someone who appreciates its particular features. And I'm beginning to think that putting it on Ebay would be to cast pearls before swine. Maybe I'll keep it in the loft until someone more discerning comes along. I am certainly not interested in selling it to someone who's trawling the web for bargains they can trade at a profit. If that's your game, I don't mind if my manner of selling disappoints you.
by CJ
13 Apr 2021, 4:14pm
Forum: Using the Forum - request help : report difficulties
Topic: Sales methods - should prices be included?
Replies: 52
Views: 564

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

I did not put my bike up for sale on this forum to have the manner of its selling raked over by people who obviously have no interest in buying it. I naively assumed that here I might find people who appreciate that whilst 1990s steel-framed bikes come up for sale all the time, very few are as well designed and precisely made as the early Thorn Audax.

Coincidentally however, there's another one for sale on Ebay right now. It's even the same colour and size (but longer so wouldn't suit my short torso). There's also a more recent Thorn Brevet - not such a nice bike IMHO - at £550 and an imacculate Roberts for £1170. So I don't know why nobody's yet snapped up that Thorn Audax for only £480! I guess it must be that very few people realise that most bikes of that type merely pretend to have enough room for mudguards - so long as you don't mind kicking the front one to bits or clogging with mud whenever you ride past a wet farmyard! But then, even the person selling it hasn't fitted any. And a lot of 90s 'audax' bikes or 'light tourers' (including that Roberts) have 130mm rear ends, rather than the Thorn's 135mm for less wheel dish (hence a stronger rear wheel, which is the achilles heel of any bike that's ridden long distances) and better chain alignment (hence efficiency) in low gears.

So if you press me - as you have - I think this bike may be worth at least £500 to someone who appreciates its particular features. And I'm beginning to think that putting it on Ebay would be to cast pearls before swine. Maybe I'll keep it in the loft until someone more discerning comes along. I am certainly not interested in selling it to someone who's trawling the web for bargains they can trade at a profit. If that's your game, I don't mind if my manner of selling disappoints you.

(Edited for spelling and grammar.)
by CJ
12 Apr 2021, 4:12pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

martin biggs wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 7:32pm ...the op won't put a price up which is a shame if you ask me
"What is my bike worth?" is a question I never answered as CTC Technical Officer, so I'm not about to start now. IMHO an item is worth as much as someone will pay for it. End of.
by CJ
12 Apr 2021, 4:12pm
Forum: Using the Forum - request help : report difficulties
Topic: Sales methods - should prices be included?
Replies: 52
Views: 564

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

martin biggs wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 7:32pm ...the op won't put a price up which is a shame if you ask me
"What is my bike worth?" is a question I never answered as CTC Technical Officer, so I'm not about to start now. IMHO an item is worth as much as someone will pay for it. End of.
by CJ
12 Apr 2021, 4:06pm
Forum: For Sale - Complete bikes ONLY - state FRAME SIZE in title
Topic: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model
Replies: 23
Views: 1954

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

markjohnobrien wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 6:12pm
martin biggs wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 5:12pm This a nice example on the bay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thorn-Audax- ... Swx-9gYzS2
This is inappropriate on someone’s for sale post - I would remove.
I don't mind. Seeing that on Ebay was what nudged me into finally getting a round tuit!
by CJ
12 Apr 2021, 4:06pm
Forum: Using the Forum - request help : report difficulties
Topic: Sales methods - should prices be included?
Replies: 52
Views: 564

Re: 58cm THORN AUDAX - Chris Juden's 1997 review model

markjohnobrien wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 6:12pm
martin biggs wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 5:12pm This a nice example on the bay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thorn-Audax- ... Swx-9gYzS2
This is inappropriate on someone’s for sale post - I would remove.
I don't mind. Seeing that on Ebay was what nudged me into finally getting a round tuit!