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by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 10:17pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
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Re: Europe 2021

The explanation was given: the UK did not yet provide the information for a secure implementation.
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 9:18pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

It is all about authentication, whether with paper documents or a digital one. So in the Netherlands you can also present your printed EU QR code.
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 8:24pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

Your UK printed document will not be accepted either.
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 7:52pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

I don't think it will because EU and connected countries can only relax the commonly agreed requirements for their own countries. And please do not be so aggressive when I am only trying to be as informative as I can. There is a common EU system, and it allows individual countries to accept what they deem appropriate for their own country. So e.g. Switzerland accepts Sinovac, but that does not give you rights in other countries that do not accept Sinovac.
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 2:44pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

In the meantime Dutch infections and hospital admissions continue to decline. Last week infections were 20% lower than the week before, and today 9.3 per day per 100k inhabitants (and 5.1 per 100k in my town).
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 10:05am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

I suppose some of these restrictions will remain for as long as the pandemic remains a world wide problem and that will be at least until the whole world has been vaccinated. Whether any of these systems will be (ab)used is up to our parliaments but I for one would not want to end up in an Orwellian dystopia. For now I am very happy with them, since they give me freedom.
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 8:59am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

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Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Lichtenstein accepted the EU offer, unlike the UK.
Local implementations of the EU system are needed because of the connection to local databases. For me the first step was to identify myself with the Dutch multifactor secure ID system DigiD. The next step was to connect to the national database with data on vaccination, previous confirmed infection and recent test results. Only after that could I generate a QR code for either Dutch or international use. So as you can see all this requires a fair amount of system security. The EU system entails mutual recognition but non EU countries will have to demonstrate that their entire chain from vaccination/infection recording/testing is secure. I am sure the UK/NHS can provide such reassurances. From what I read the UK is similarly restrictive to many other countries and for good reason.
by willem jongman
25 Sep 2021, 1:55am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

EU designed with common standards and administered by national public health authorities. These national authorities can impose their own conditions on the use of this EU system within their own jurisdiction but cannot exclude citizens from other EU countries from enjoying the same rights as their own citizens except in very severe conditions. The UK are no longer in the EU and thus far the Netherlands only accepts EU certificates from other EU countries unless its technical and administrative standards are met which is not yet the case with the UK.
So I fail to understand your point unless it is somehow semantic.
by willem jongman
24 Sep 2021, 11:33pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

It is an EU app that generates either an EU wide qr code or a national one, with different privacy levels and allowing individual countries to define different uses within their own borders.
I don't see the Dutch use as restrictive: it is an instrument to relax nearly all restrictions in a this time hopefully safe manner focussing on the situations that are known to generate most infections. In the meantime numbers of infections, and hospital and icu admissions are coming down quite significantly. The mandatory use of the app should allow this trend to continue while at the same time returning freedom to those who are not potentially infectuous or a potential burden on tbe health system.
by willem jongman
24 Sep 2021, 10:14am
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Pictures of your tents.
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Views: 81236

Re: Pictures of your tents.

My Helsport Ringstind 2 Superlight. It is a bit low, to be honest.
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The location is the nature campsite at Hooghalen, south of Assen, in the Dutch province of Drenthe.
by willem jongman
23 Sep 2021, 4:45pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

Yes sorry, midnight.
by willem jongman
23 Sep 2021, 12:13pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
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Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

Vorpal wrote: 23 Sep 2021, 11:34am There are no checks to enter bars & restaurants.

The capacities for shops, restaurants, & bars have been reduced substantially from pre-covid levels.
That is what we are now stopping in lieu of using the covid app for admission. What remains is the 12pm closing time, because research has shown that many infections occured precisely at these late night events.
by willem jongman
23 Sep 2021, 11:34am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
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Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

al_yrpal wrote: 23 Sep 2021, 11:30am
willem jongman wrote: 23 Sep 2021, 11:12am Tourism in Amsterdam is a problem, and drunken Brits in particular are a nuisance. Therefore, many in that town were only too glad to see tourism take a plunge.
Yeah, we have the same problem only its all over the country, thats why we send them abroad! :lol:

Al
Add a breathalyser
by willem jongman
23 Sep 2021, 11:32am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

However, that Norwegian decision refers to checks at the border. Does Norway use the app to check admission to bars and restaurants or museums etc?
by willem jongman
23 Sep 2021, 11:12am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Europe 2021
Replies: 745
Views: 20057

Re: Europe 2021

The average daily infection rate in the Netherlands has been 10.5 per 100k for the last week. Daily average hospital admissions per million have been 2.34, and daily ICU admissions per million 0.51. R=0.91. All numbers are coming down, and we would like to continue with the trend. Hence the imposition of the digital corona check app. It will permit further relaxation of the restrictions while pushing down the infection rate at the same time. Travellers too should feel safer as a result. By now 86% of all 18+ year olds have had a first jab, and 82% are fully vaccinated. If we take into account the 12-18 year olds as well, 83.5% and 79.6% of the entire population over 12 years of age have been vaccinated. This is a pretty good score, and quite similar to other EU countries or the UK, but equally it is not quite good enough to kill the epidemic, so we cannot sit back.
The Netherlands are a nice country for cycle touring of the more relaxed kind, particularly with children. There are many campsites, and the Natuurkampeerterreinen in particular are strongly recommended for cycle tourists, but the season is drawing to an end. The Fietsersbond Routeplanner allows you to create gpx tracks where you will hardly see a single car. Tourism in Amsterdam is a problem, and drunken Brits in particular are a nuisance. Therefore, many in that town were only too glad to see tourism take a plunge.