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by Freddie
7 Sep 2019, 6:31pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

Far better to nurture an intellectual, musical, sporting (insert thing here) elite, than to squander it based upon notions that everything must be distributed fairly. If ability for one thing or another is not fairly distributed among individuals, then why should we seek to capitalise upon ability ...
by Freddie
4 Sep 2019, 9:38am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

But they will have had a good family situation with supportive parents who got their kids to bed at a sensible hour, gave them a decent breakfast and wanted the best for them. Not all families are like that. I don't think that was the case at all. Certainly some, but no more or less than would have...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 6:46pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

If we were to separate children into different streams due to different types of aptitude we certainly wouldn't do it the way they did it for the old Grammar / Secondary Modern system. That was more of a test of the family's aptitude to train their kids than of the raw ability of the children. Funn...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 6:34pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

Ok,you start by giving any child the chance to learn an instrument,if they show interest and practice and patience they then do pretty much as they do now and join the school orchestra if they show real promise the tuition becomes more focused,and so on. At some point they either plateau or show sh...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 5:38pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

Straws,clutching,at! Point covered in a previous post Not in the least, if you want to become a top tier classical musician, then more likely than not you'll need to attend a dedicated music school. I think it makes my point, that if children have certain skills we are trying to bring out, we need ...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 5:18pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

If there weren't a need due to a better education system,then there wouldn't been a need would there? I dunno, some parents are very keen on their children learning instruments and I doubt this could be done properly without a) a private tutor or b) a proper music school. Ah! So you do understand w...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 5:02pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

Pete, you didn't answer my question though...How are your children, who I presume have benefitted from your wealth, much different from the children of old Etonians, who you say benefit from an unfair advantage through their fathers' contacts. Where is the line drawn between fair and unfair advantag...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 4:31pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

In a properly funded national education system there'd be less eed for private tutors or private schools,nor wouldnthere be a post code school system where parents move house because of a better school down the road,it would bring schools upto a higher level across the board. But as you say pigs mi...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 12:48pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

What rubbish! By paying for a tutor for poor kid down the road you're giving him the advantage instead. Equality would be both getting tutored privately surely. I wouldn't say it was rubbish, per se. What are the metrics used for equality? If your child is ahead of the one down the road academicall...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 12:27pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

The social class system works both way. It is a game of snakes and ladders, not just a game of 'very occasional ladders', as some would have it. Plenty of people have fallen from high birth to low within a generation because of their own misbehaviour or ineptitude. People go both up and down the cl...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 11:33am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: It woz the Conservatives/the rich wot done it!
Replies: 16
Views: 798

Re: It woz the Conservatives/the rich wot done it!

Well, yes and no. I understand what you are saying, bur trends and patterns exist. Everyone would enjoy thinking we're all very complex and individual, but I imagine most people are far more predictable than they'd wish to believe. I had predicted, for example, that if you responded you would respon...
by Freddie
3 Sep 2019, 11:19am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

The social class system works both way. It is a game of snakes and ladders, not just a game of 'very occasional ladders', as some would have it. Plenty of people have fallen from high birth to low within a generation because of their own misbehaviour or ineptitude. People go both up and down the cla...
by Freddie
2 Sep 2019, 8:46pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: It woz the Conservatives/the rich wot done it!
Replies: 16
Views: 798

Re: It woz the Conservatives/the rich wot done it!

It is partly about self interest but it is partly about point of view. If you're politically from one pursuasion you view some things acceptable that other political pursuasions don't. Within that the extremes of all pursuasions make it all easier to spot. This a very interesting point. To get seri...
by Freddie
2 Sep 2019, 8:35pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

Lower middle class now at a guess. Born just above or escaped from the working class so look down upon it. Obviously not working class now and not middle class if regarding £100,000 a year as wealth. I'm retired now but my pension income last year was about half that. More this year because it's in...
by Freddie
2 Sep 2019, 3:35pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Education
Replies: 154
Views: 3950

Re: Education

I will try find some data as per hours of TV watched and hours reading done on a class by class basis. I thought this was such common knowledge though that it didn't need explanation.

All the same, common knowledge can be wrong, let me see what I can find.