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by Richard Fairhurst
13 Jun 2021, 11:46am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: More Apple Macbook pro failures.
Replies: 14
Views: 316

Re: More Apple Macbook pro failures.

Keyboards in recent Macbooks are a notorious issue – they've finally reverted to a sane design with the latest models, but for a good few years they were very prone to dust/crumbs/etc.
by Richard Fairhurst
11 Jun 2021, 1:01pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

matt_twam_asi wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 12:35pm What would you recommend for "access is private, but the school's pupils are allowed to ride bikes on this way". bicycle=private? highway=cycleway + access=private?
Either of those would work, I think. To be honest I personally wouldn't worry about private access arrangements within a school - I'd probably just put "access=private" and leave it at that.
matt_twam_asi wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 12:35pm Fair enough and it's not a massive pain to re-route. It's unfortunate that the DfT data doesn't have a metric for average speed as I'd guess it wouldn't be much above 20-30 until the road leaves Horsham. Car users are prioritised above all others in Horsham, but we have a new councillor after the local elections so I'll have a go at pushing him on more 20mph zones. :)
If you have a local Community Speedwatch group then these are good people to get on board - they might already have data on local average speeds (it's a lot easier to get a 20mph limit if the average speed of traffic is already lowish). We finally got ours last year but it took a lot of badgering the county council!
by Richard Fairhurst
11 Jun 2021, 10:41am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

matt_twam_asi wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:01pm Hi Richard,

Can you take a look at this route as I wonder if the routing around access=private needs to be tweaked? https://cycle.travel/map/journey/229426
The default goes through two sets of gates marked private and through a private cycle path in a school. It should really route to the south.
Yep - you've still got "bicycle=designated" on the path. That will override the "access=private", because very often people use a combination of tags like that to mean "no cars, but bikes are allowed". If you remove the "bicycle=designated" then cycle.travel will avoid it as it should (after the next update).
matt_twam_asi wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 10:01pm In Horsham the router seems to hate Queen Street and Brighton Road. It's not that bad!
I think it's taking that from the DfT traffic data for the road - same with RickH's example. They're both pretty busy roads with cars and cycle.travel's preference is more or less correlated with that, though it is more forgiving of urban areas (and especially of 20mph limits, which sadly aren't in force in these cases). I might be able to make a few slight adjustments and I'll look into it a bit more. The challenge is that making it more tolerant of busy roads in general could make it less likely to choose quiet lanes in general, and that would be a great shame.

Really I'd suggest using the "Go direct" option between two via points in this case - obviously it won't 100% follow the line of the road, but if you know you're just following the same A road across town, that shouldn't matter. Or lobby your local council to install a 20mph limit. ;)
by Richard Fairhurst
10 Jun 2021, 7:23pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

chris_suffolk wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 4:40pm'Loading track with elevation from the map' and the eTrex hangs, never coming back from this message, I have to turn it off to get out.
Ah, we've had this one previously (page 55). That's Garmin being dilatory in working out the elevation for the track.

If you make sure the elevation display is on-screen when you download the GPX from cycle.travel, then cycle.travel will include the elevation in the GPX file, and Garmin won't need to fetch it.
SA_SA_SA wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 6:03pmThanks, but it seemed a general feature that in urban areas ct would me along tiny sections of consecutive residental streets when I wanted to stay on the main route to simplify navigation and avoid having to keep rejoining at give ways. I havent tried it for approx a month though...
I can't help if you don't give me an example I'm afraid. :(
by Richard Fairhurst
10 Jun 2021, 3:35pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

It tries to minimise turns at the same time as picking quieter routes - obviously it doesn't always get it right, but much of this is because there isn't much data on what's a quiet route and what isn't in urban areas. If you have a particular example in mind let me know.
by Richard Fairhurst
9 Jun 2021, 8:07pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

Chris - if you could post one of your GPX files (or a link to the route on cycle.travel) I can have a look. In theory there shouldn't be an issue but the eTrexes sometimes have limits to the number of trackpoints they'll accept.
by Richard Fairhurst
9 Jun 2021, 10:55am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

Sweep wrote: 8 Jun 2021, 6:16pm why if you ask for a route from carlisle to inverness,
and then ask for a round trip,
does the route divert to and then come straight back from the doubtless charming town/hamlet of Claonaig?
It's what's technically known as "one of those things"! The routing algorithm is geared to finding the best route between A and B; finding an alternate, second-best route (which is what forms the return leg) isn't something it's ideally suited for. So sometimes you get little artefacts like this.
BeardyWeirdy wrote: 8 Jun 2021, 4:11pmUnfortunately on my Etrex, I can only see about 12 (?) characters of the name or so. I downloaded them and renamed the GPX files to some thing short and in order, but the etrex obviously uses an internal name, as they showed up as *Long nam...." so I could not tell them apart.

Would it be possible to split the files into "Day 1 + name" rather than "Name + day 1" so I can tell them apart!
Ah, Garmins are full of pleasant surprises like that. I've just tweaked it so that if you have a route called (say) "LEJOG day 1", it will set the internal name in the GPX file to "1: LEJOG".
Sweep wrote: 15 May 2021, 1:48pm On a recent up and down up and down ride in the chilterns I peered at my etrex more closely than usual and noticed that it was successively counting down to High Point Low Point High Point etc.
Very useful, and particularly encouraging as I laboured up a great big hill out of High Wycombe.
Is this a function of cycle travel or is it something to do with my garmin, or even the maps?
If cycletravel, can I ask how it is done? ie what the "window" is for deciding on the point of the "high point", "low point" ?
I ask as there were clearly times where climbing towards a "high point" there were clearly some points where the road dropped but the garmin continued to count to a higher point some distance ahead.
"High Point" and "Low Point" are Garmin things, I believe - certainly there's nothing in cycle.travel that adds them. Nice feature though!
by Richard Fairhurst
6 Jun 2021, 12:24pm
Forum: Off-road Cycling.
Topic: Apps/route planners for off road cycling?
Replies: 9
Views: 280

Re: Apps/route planners for off road cycling?

It's not a fundamental flaw - OSM's quality control, like most open source, is "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow". The issue is exactly that: there aren't yet enough eyeballs on off-road routing with OSM. It'll come with time. Arguably Komoot and Strava could already do a much better job for off-road routing on OSM data, but Komoot's parsing of OSM data in the UK is partial and Strava barely bothers at all.
by Richard Fairhurst
1 Jun 2021, 12:40pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Trent and Mersey Canal, Stoke>South
Replies: 9
Views: 302

Re: Trent and Mersey Canal, Stoke>South

That’s fine if I remember rightly (though my experience is by boat rather than bike) - much of it has been upgraded as part of NCN5. Some of the rural sections south of Stone are a bit rougher.
by Richard Fairhurst
27 May 2021, 1:41pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: What is CUK doing for us?
Replies: 134
Views: 6001

Re: What is CUK doing for us?

Richard Fairhurst wrote: 27 May 2021, 12:11pmIn CUK's defence, their new off-road routes have been spectacularly successful
Having been nice about CUK an hour or two ago, I now take it all back having watched their lunchtime webinar on "How to plan a cycle route", which recommended Komoot and Google Maps, claimed that "Komoot uses OS maps so it's very accurate" (er... no it doesn't), and didn't admit the existence of cycle.travel, even after I sent a friendly message to the meeting host. Not the first time that's happened either.

So I think I'll revise my answer to say "CJ is right and CUK is doing nothing for us, please give your money to Sustrans instead". :lol:
by Richard Fairhurst
27 May 2021, 12:11pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: What is CUK doing for us?
Replies: 134
Views: 6001

Re: What is CUK doing for us?

Interesting thread.

In CUK's defence, their new off-road routes have been spectacularly successful - particularly King Alfred's Way, but also the Great North Trail, and I'd anticipate the West Kernow Way will be too. It's not necessarily the sort of touring that appeals to everyone here, but it is touring nonetheless, and an increasingly popular form of it. You could argue that King Alfred's Way, in particular, has got more column inches for bike touring than any other initiative in recent years.

It's true, though, that no one organisation in Britain, including CUK, is really doing much for non-rough-stuff touring at the moment. There's actually quite a lot going on piecemeal, ranging from Jack Thurston's excellent 'Lost Lanes' books, to a few new signposted touring routes, to, um, some websites or other. But there isn't a single organisation saying "right, we want to promote leisure cycling on country lanes".

Does that matter? By and large I'm not sure it does, but there are a couple of areas where the absence is noted.

One is in lobbying Government for safer road conditions. There's lots of great work going on in cities and towns for utility cycling, and that's fabulous. But no-one has really grasped the nettle of "quiet lanes" in rural areas. There have been a few disconnected initiatives over the years but nothing that's stuck. It sits between CUK, Sustrans, and CPRE, really, and I'd love to see a co-ordinated push on that. (I've even considered doing a few things myself but there are never enough hours in the day...)

The second is that no-one is really creating or marketing new long-distance accessible touring routes. We don't have anything of the scale or tourism impact of (say) the Rhine or Danube routes, or even the longer Voies Vertes in France. The Sustrans challenge routes (C2C, Lon Las Cymru etc.) are excellent, but they're a lot more difficult than the European equivalents, which makes them unlikely to ever have the same mass appeal. There's a small number of NCN routes which are almost there (Kennet & Avon, North Wales Coast, Devon C2C) but not quite. I think it's 100% doable for a few £m - in fact, I could suggest a route right now which I think would be an enormous success for a comparatively modest investment. In France they'd happily spend money on that, but there's no-one doing that in the UK right now.
by Richard Fairhurst
22 May 2021, 10:37am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cathedrals Cycle Route challenge
Replies: 7
Views: 499

Re: Cathedrals Cycle Route challenge

There was a brief discussion about it in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=105714

By and large the routes don't seem significantly better than you'd get by punching each cathedral into a route-planner for start and end points - indeed, they're often very similar. I did wonder why the Ely-Norwich route went along a track that cycle.travel hadn't found, but a little desktop recce suggests there's no public right of way on the suggested CCR itinerary...
by Richard Fairhurst
20 May 2021, 10:02am
Forum: Off-road Cycling.
Topic: Help with a route finder UK
Replies: 11
Views: 890

Re: Help with a route finder UK

Online MTB/gravel routing isn't yet as good as on-road routing. As a base dataset OpenStreetMap is the only game in town (OS don't have a routable dataset of paths outside National Parks, and Google/HERE/TomTom have virtually nothing), but OSM can be a bit patchy on path permissions - paths will sometimes be marked for a short distance as footpath when they should be bridleway (or restricted byway, or whatever). It's getting better, and some areas have been mapped really well, but there isn't yet a competent off-road router for the whole UK.
by Richard Fairhurst
20 May 2021, 9:27am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Cycle Travel Question
Replies: 1103
Views: 133770

Re: Cycle Travel Question

The routing updates after the mapping (for boring technical reasons!) - usually this would take about a day for Europe/UK, but this time I need to run Europe/UK, America, and Australia/NZ all together so that I can push a routing server update in one big bang. It should be ready some time this afternoon.