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by Salade_Lyonnaise
24 Aug 2019, 11:32pm
Forum: Wanted
Topic: Raleigh Royal/Randonneur mid 1980s - 90s , 22.5" frame or complete bike
Replies: 0
Views: 57

Raleigh Royal/Randonneur mid 1980s - 90s , 22.5" frame or complete bike

Hello,

Looking for a Raleigh Royal or Randonneur frame/bike. Must have approx 60mm BB drop (later 90's changed to 68mm I believe). London based preferable, unless willing to post.

22.5" centre-top

Cheers.
by Salade_Lyonnaise
19 Aug 2019, 9:56pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

Thanks for the tips all. The height (256mm with 650x38 tyres, 250mm with 32) seems fine for road, great for a traditional road tourer. But as an everything bike, I'm still a little worried about rough tracks and paths. And spending out ££ to finish the frame, then finding a problem. But you're proba...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
18 Aug 2019, 4:43pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?

IME 74 degrees is unlikely to be a suitable seat angle for a touring bike, if you have anything like a conventional riding position. That's if it is 74 degrees, in most of the photos I have seen it looks steeper than that and the head angle looks steeper still. As I mentioned previously, these fram...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
18 Aug 2019, 3:04pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?

have you got good info on frame angles Yes, although I thought I had the seat angle but I can't find it now. Headtube is 74, quite steep. Toptube length is fine (57cm effective) same as an 80s 22.5" Raleigh. I went from riding 23/23.5" classic frames 73 parallel, to slightly smaller 22.5&...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
18 Aug 2019, 2:20pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

LollyKat wrote: One pedal down for comfort? Do you mean you are freewheeling slightly out of the saddle? When I do this I have my feet fore and aft and take my weight on both, so plenty of clearance.


extending a leg after miles of cycling (I find my knees get tight after an old injury). cheers
by Salade_Lyonnaise
18 Aug 2019, 2:10pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

Why do you see cushy tyres or a loaded bike being a problem? Cushy tyre seems to indicate larger section tyres (37mm+?)which will lift BB height for the smaller wheel size. A loaded bike is better controlled with a lower BB than high one as the saddle is correspondingly lower which makes it easier ...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
18 Aug 2019, 1:55pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?

@willp — thanks for that. FWIW I would always prioritise other aspects of frame geometry (e.g. angles, reach) over small variations in BB drop, because they will often prevent you from ever getting comfy on the bike. cheers @ Brucey — Top advice Brucey. Ideally I'd love to have a proper fit (pricey)...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
17 Aug 2019, 10:39pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

if 5mm or 10mm were really a big deal you would have to get special framesets made for those who want to use 175mm or 180mm cranks instead of 170mm ones. cheers Which makes me wonder how much I was off vertical when in a time trial many years ago on my road/track iron with 150mm cranks? and I clout...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
17 Aug 2019, 10:37pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?

I`ll get my tape out tomorrow morning - off out on a ride so I`ll check before I go. Where are you located Salade? Maybe easier to to actually have a look at the actual bike if you are close by. I`m in North Bucks. Cheers Will that's a great help, a vertical floor to top of crown/bottom of headset ...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
17 Aug 2019, 9:12pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

Brucey wrote:if 5mm or 10mm were really a big deal you would have to get special framesets made for those who want to use 175mm or 180mm cranks instead of 170mm ones.

cheers


Thanks Brucey good point. I still wonder with cushy tyres and loaded up with luggage, if it could be a nuisance though... :?
by Salade_Lyonnaise
17 Aug 2019, 6:13pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: Frame sizing opinions - odd Bravura/Nidderdale eBay frames?

Thanks will, great help Hello I also have bike build with this frame.g[/url] And thanks tollo, When anyone gets a chance, do you mind measuring your BB drop, and also the length of your forks from axle to top of crown where it meets the headset — so I can calculate BB heights with different fork cho...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
17 Aug 2019, 6:07pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

@OP - I converted a Litespeed frame with 76mm BB drop to 650b and rode it that way for several years - I was using Michelin Megamium 650Bx32 tyres. It was possible to ground a pedal if I continued pedalling through a high speed corner, but that's not something I do, so I didn't have any problem. As...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
17 Aug 2019, 12:25am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

Yep, and final height with approx 38mm tyres would be 265mm with 65mm drop, higher with even less drop. The difference between 622 (700c) rims and 584 (650) rims is 19mm. Cheers
by Salade_Lyonnaise
16 Aug 2019, 11:59pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Re: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

I don't think 5mm is going to be a deal breaker is it? Just be sure to get some pedals that don't stick out too far if you want to go round corners whilst pedalling. cheers Do you think so Brucey? I get so safety conscious, the general consensus seems to be 265mm upwards. I'm cautious of spending o...
by Salade_Lyonnaise
16 Aug 2019, 11:39pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop
Replies: 21
Views: 1017

Steel touring frame suggestions with smaller BB drop

Hello all, I've hit a dilemma with a nice frame I got hold of (Dawes Galaxy Tour). I planned to convert to 650b, however the BB drop is 73mm so I'll end up with a BB height of 257 or less. Too low I'd say....? It was measured incorrectly as 67mm. Can anyone suggest steel touring frames that have a B...