Vorpal wrote:While there are some very good points in this thread, I think that it is a problem in our society to judge people by how they are appear. It is not possible to determine whether someone is healthy or fit by body shape. To attempt to do so is unreasonable. What someone weighs or should weigh is between them and their GP or medical consultants.
Fitness makes far more difference to health outcomes than weight or BMI. And while there is a correlation between fitness and weight, we vary as individuals. Perceptions of 'overweight' and 'obese' are culturally driven, and not entirely supported by medical evidence. Yes, obese people are at higher risk for some conditions; no argument there. But studies have shown that people who are 'overweight' have the same health outcomes as people who are 'normal' weight. more info
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So what body shape are you, potato or runner bean?
I totally disagree with this apologist ill informed view. It is what has got most people so FAT in this country. An NHS that is bulging with fat staff failing to tackle the elephants in their surgeries whose LOVE of sugar and carbs, gluttony and addiction has got them where they are. Of course you can tell how healthy some one is going to be by their body shape, skin, eyes, hair, etc. First and foremost, fat people are likely to be type 2 pre-diabetic or diabetic caused by them troffing industrial quantities of foods laden with sugar, stodgy starchy processed foods, bread, pasta, potatoes, pizzas, crisps, chips, buns, sugary fizzy drinks, alcohol, all the horrors you KNOW you shouldn't be eating or drinking and doing zero exercise. They will also get out of breadth just getting off the couch to go to the fridge, panting and wheezing. It is depressing seeing all these types of people when out shopping, hanging onto their shopping trollies containing mountains of processed foods, pies, chocolate, crisps, biscuits, ready meals, etc.
It is decades of government and NHS "expert" advice that has told people to eat a LOW FAT HIGH CARB diet that has created the epidemic of fat people we now see. It's as if the food companies, big pharma, doctors, the NHS and government have all been complicit to make people who are unable to educate themselves or are just bone idle to become fat to keep them fat because then they can spend the rest of their lives on drugs such as metaformin, allowing them to eat more of their crap foods, continuing to use the NHS for their increasingly frequent and more serious ailments brought on because they are fat! It is a scandal.
It doesn't help when many doctors, nurses and NHS staff are themselves fat. If the appearance and weight of many NHS staff is indicative of their organisation's healthy lifestyle policies and programmes then they have totally failed. Is it any wonder that the general population is also potato shaped. It is not hard to work out that it is sugar and carbs that are the problem and the killer and a lack of any exercise. Cut these out, do some fasting and exercise and the weight will literally fall off. Educate yourselves and have some self discipline.
All the rest you talk about is simply window dressing skirting around the huge elephant in the room which is diet. The greatest weight losses can only be achieved by a change in diet. Yes there are fit and healthy thin, slim, svelt, toned people who work out - go to the gym, cycle, run, swim, walk, hike, play sport, golf, what ever floats your boat, but the common denominator is that we don't shovel lots of sugar and carbs into our mouths.
It is not people's addiction to oil, but addiction to sugar and carbs that is killing them.
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