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by syklist
8 Apr 2021, 2:02pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

mjr wrote: 8 Apr 2021, 1:22pm The nationalist misnaming will become problematic if B1.1.7 with E484K or the A.23.1 with E484K variants escape from England.

Are we world-beating in covid variant incubation?
It looks like it

I for one am sure it is as a result of the UK freeing itself from the shackles of the European overlords. :roll:

Edit : That, by the way is an example of my dry sense of humour.
by syklist
8 Apr 2021, 12:58pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

Vorpal wrote: 8 Apr 2021, 10:57am
Ben@Forest wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 6:14pm

Apologies - I thought you meant from the start of the whole shebang. I remember Italy was the first European country which reported clusters of C-19 and was one of the first to implement lockdowns.
That's ok. Norway was an early adopter :roll:

Norwegians like to travel for winter half term, and generally take half term in February. So, yes, initial cases came from people who travelled to Austria and Italy & returned with the virus. It was in community transmission by the time the health authorities realised.
I seem to remember reading that half of the 500 or so initial cases in Norway could basically be traced back to one bar in a valley in Austria. "Anyone for a spot of Après-ski... cough cough?".

That the "early adopters" were fit alpine ski enthusiasts in the age range 35-45 and that Norway locked down effectively in mid March are the main reasons why the death toll from the first wave of Covid-19 was relatively small and the outbreak relatively well contained. We are now heading towards 700 deaths in total since the start of the pandemic. If Norway had suffered similar mortality rates to the UK we would now have had over 9500 Covid-19 deaths.
by syklist
7 Apr 2021, 2:37pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

Ben@Forest wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 2:21pm
Vorpal wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 1:55pm I have certainly never seen the It should be referred to as the B.1.1.7 variant, referred to anything other than the 'British' variant (translated, of course), even by government health authorities in Norway.

That said, at the the early cases recorded here were traced to the people of origin & definitely came into Norway from the UK, even if a similar home-grown variant was found in Norway in September or October.

So, maybe take it up with the Norwegian government & press :lol:
Really?

According to the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page on Covid in Norway:

On 26 February 2020, the virus was confirmed to have spread to Norway. The number of cases increased rapidly during the month of March, thereby necessitating a number of safety measures aiming to achieve physical distancing to be introduced on 12 March. The first death attributed to COVID-19 was documented on the same day. Most confirmed cases that were traced to outside Norway were Norwegian tourists returning from Austria and Italy.

The English/British/B.1.1.7 variant wasn't identified at all until December 2020.
Vorpal is discussing the B.1.1.7 variant in that post which was discovered in Norway in early 2021(? I think) NOT the first wave of infection in Feb/March 2020. That was indeed traced back to Norwegian tourists returning from the "Vinterferie" (winter holiday) in Austria and Italy.
by syklist
7 Apr 2021, 2:34pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

Ben@Forest wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 10:16am
syklist wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 9:01am
francovendee wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 10:47am The English variant of C19 now accounts for over 89% of cases in the Vendee, hence the rapid rise in the numbers.
It accounts for over 90% of infections in the Greater Oslo area. Infection rates are going down at the moment after another round of lockdowns.

One British export we could have done without.
It should be referred to as the B.1.1.7 variant, not “U.K. variant”.
Yes, I am aware of that, it was another poster who used the phrase "English variant of C19". I merely replied to their comment.

As Vorpal has pointed out here they call it the "engelsk" or occasionally "britisk" variant. I have seen occasional newspaper articles where the "correct" name is give as well as "engelsk".

Track and trace here in Norway has been the responsibility of local councils as they run local doctors surgeries. Certainly here in our neck of the woods it is very rare that they do not find out where and how a person was infected. So it is easy to find the provenance of a given non-Norwegian Covid-19 strain. Irrespective as to what you choose to call it.

My comment "One British export we could have done without" was actually ironic, that post 31/12/2020 British exporters seem to be have more problems trying to serve customers in the EU and EEA.

The irony being that (unfortunately) this does not seem to apply to the export of Covid-19 variants first found in the UK.
by syklist
7 Apr 2021, 12:36pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

Ben@Forest wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 10:16am
syklist wrote: 7 Apr 2021, 9:01am
francovendee wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 10:47am The English variant of C19 now accounts for over 89% of cases in the Vendee, hence the rapid rise in the numbers.
It accounts for over 90% of infections in the Greater Oslo area. Infection rates are going down at the moment after another round of lockdowns.

One British export we could have done without.
It should be referred to as the B.1.1.7 variant, not “U.K. variant”.
Why?
Edit: I didn't use the phrase merely replied to another post.
by syklist
7 Apr 2021, 9:01am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

francovendee wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 10:47am The English variant of C19 now accounts for over 89% of cases in the Vendee, hence the rapid rise in the numbers.
It accounts for over 90% of infections in the Greater Oslo area. Infection rates are going down at the moment after another round of lockdowns.

One British export we could have done without.
by syklist
7 Apr 2021, 8:44am
Forum: Health and fitness
Topic: Loss of balance due to chemotherapy
Replies: 5
Views: 537

Re: Loss of balance due to chemotherapy

Thanks for the comments. We are based in Norway so I have no idea what types of help are available in the UK. We seem to be taken good care of here both financially and in terms of other types of support. The main treatment hospital is 2.5 hours drive away while our local hospital for blood tests and Covid-19 tests is only an hours drive away. Our travel costs are refunded by the "Patient Travel" agency.

The balance problems are caused by one drug in particular and should be temporary. The drug was being given every week in the first six weeks and now has been reduced to two out of three weeks.

In terms of adaptions, going back to the trailer bike and taking a trailer with us in case child nr 2 gets tired are the main ones we are using. These are things we already have from the past few years of cycle camping so we know how to use them. Child nr 2 has already said that they want to go cycle camping so we will see what we can do when the weather gets a little warmer. Normally our season starts late April/early May for one night practice runs.

I realise that they will have to find their new normal when they are done with treatment and maintenance treatments. We won't really know what all long term effects of the treatment are until we are there. Which could be 10-15 years in the future before we know all of the implications.

Some things will change forever, but the main point is get them back as healthy as possible.

So far progress is good and I look forward to them resuming cycling on their own bike even though I might have to wait until next year before that happens.
by syklist
4 Apr 2021, 8:11pm
Forum: Health and fitness
Topic: Loss of balance due to chemotherapy
Replies: 5
Views: 537

Loss of balance due to chemotherapy

Child nr 2 has been on chemotherapy since the end of January. They learned to ride a bike last summer just before they turned 4 and then progressed onto a 20" wheeled bike within a month.

After a round of chemo we discovered that they could no longer balance on a bike. One of the drugs used is known to affect the legs and hence balance. Interestingly they are able to walk as before although a little less steady and scoot around the house on a three wheeled scooter. However, I guess that a balance on a two wheeled bike is rather more complicated. I noticed that Child nr 2 also doesn't balance as well on the trailer bike either compared with last summers tour.

Has anyone else experienced similar (cycling related) balance issues after starting with chemotherapy?
by syklist
4 Apr 2021, 7:57pm
Forum: Family Cycling
Topic: Extra short cranks - bodger's delight
Replies: 12
Views: 1923

Re: Extra short cranks - bodger's delight

syklist wrote: 12 Jan 2021, 5:05pm Thanks for the "upvotes".

I think I will keep my bodged cranks for posterity and hang them on a wall somewhere when I take them off the trailer bike. Fond memories of two great cycle tours. Child number two is already saying that they want to do this year's tour on their own bike so I think the Burley will be hanging on a wall soon too.

I am hoping that we will all have been vaccinated by the summer and can travel to the flat bits of Denmark without risking a bout of the dreaded lurgy. Otherwise it might be interesting with a 4 year old going on 5 touring on their own bike for the first time in hilly Telemark. :D
The best laid plans and all that.

Child nr 2 was diagnosed with cancer at the end of January and started immediately with chemotherapy. Signs after three rounds of treatment are encouraging but one of the side effects is that Child nr 2 is no longer able to balance on a bike without stabilisers. This means that the trailer bike will be used for another year at least I guess until we know which side effects are temporary and which ones are permanent. Their legs are a bit less flexible too so I will hold off with swapping the cranks.

Anyway it is unlikely we will get a summer tour this year. Maybe a few nights away locally but we have to have a car with us at all times. Simple things like a fever result in the child being taken to the local hospital immediately (day or night) for tests and an antibiotic drip. So we have to park the car up first before we can cycle to the campsite. Or have a friend follow us round in car if we wanted to do a longer tour.
by syklist
8 Mar 2021, 8:53pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Who's had the vaccine?
Replies: 1320
Views: 34325

Re: Who's had the vaccine?

Paulatic wrote:For once I’m living in a fortunate area D&G nearly half of population done now.
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Erm, don't you mean nearly half the population have had one dose?

"Done" for me is two doses.

Interesting that only two of the areas listed have a proportion of the population protected with two doses higher than in Norway.
by syklist
8 Mar 2021, 8:42pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Census 2021
Replies: 121
Views: 2959

Re: Census 2021 - is it just a big con?

cycle tramp wrote:Again they would say that, they've asked for it. MI5 have probably requested too... i bet the really paranoid mps really love that, one massive sweep of everyone's information in one place.


I take it you don't use the internet then?

Having lived in two countries with a central register of residents I find it a bit quaint that the UK still does this census thing. In the Netherlands and Norway you are required to register usually at the local council. In Norway the data gets put into a database called the "Folkeregister" along with basic information about you such as your DOB, nationality and other family members living at the same address.

If you need proof of your address in Norway you order a certificate from the Folkeregister. It arrives in the post to your registered address. If you order a new bank card it will get sent to your registered address (well to your local Post office where you have to show ID to pick it up). Letters from the health authority regarding appointments get sent to your registered address. It makes a lot of things somewhat easier. Especially when you move.

Of course, the problem with a central register is that it won't give you any information about those people who are not registered. However, I doubt such people would willingly give their details to a census official in the UK, so a census won't get you that information either.
by syklist
8 Mar 2021, 8:25pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Who's had the vaccine?
Replies: 1320
Views: 34325

Re: Who's had the vaccine?

thirdcrank wrote:Now that vaccination has started, I think it would be useful to know who's had it and their comments, if any.

If it's not abundantly clear, I'm referring to Covid-19, not flu or bubonic plague.

Still waiting here, roll-out is a bit slower here in Norway than in the UK and I am not in a high risk group. At the time of writing 3.9% have been fully vaccinated and just over 7% of the population have had one dose. We did get text messages a while back asking us to check our contact information with the health authorities so we could be called up when it was our turn.

Although the UK Covid-19 variant is starting to bite here in the larger towns in the more rural area where I live we have had no new cases in the last 14 days. There have been no excess deaths here in Norway under the pandemic as yet. I don't know anyone in my local area who has had Covid-19.
by syklist
8 Mar 2021, 8:10pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: I don't like living in England....
Replies: 908
Views: 22544

Re: I don't like living in England....

Oldjohnw wrote:I love England. I love the scenery, the traditional architecture, the village churches and greens. The ordinary people.

I feel increasingly unwelcome here though. Every day I feel more of an alien. The self entitled are ever more distant yet trying to totally manage our lives. Government is corrupt like I have never known in my entire life.


I became aware of this a while ago. This year in September I will mark 25 years living elsewhere in the Europe.

Funnily enough the first time that my vote ever counted was in the Netherlands. I grew up in a staunch Tory area in the UK, then moved to a University in a staunch Labour area so my (Labour) vote never made any difference.

After a few years of living in the Netherlands I got the right to vote in local elections that used a form of proportional representation. Not only did my vote count and I actually got to vote for a socialist party.
by syklist
12 Jan 2021, 5:05pm
Forum: Family Cycling
Topic: Extra short cranks - bodger's delight
Replies: 12
Views: 1923

Re: Extra short cranks - bodger's delight

Thanks for the "upvotes".

I think I will keep my bodged cranks for posterity and hang them on a wall somewhere when I take them off the trailer bike. Fond memories of two great cycle tours. Child number two is already saying that they want to do this year's tour on their own bike so I think the Burley will be hanging on a wall soon too.

I am hoping that we will all have been vaccinated by the summer and can travel to the flat bits of Denmark without risking a bout of the dreaded lurgy. Otherwise it might be interesting with a 4 year old going on 5 touring on their own bike for the first time in hilly Telemark. :D
by syklist
6 Dec 2020, 5:58pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: The Brexit thread
Replies: 539
Views: 13562

Re: The Brexit thread

pwa wrote:You say all that, but I'm not making a partisan point here. I think it is just a plain and rather curious fact. A soft Brexit was there to be had but too few MPs voted for it. At the time i wondered if this would be the consequence.

There was never a chance of a soft Brexit. Not with the disaster capitalists and hedgefund experts (who still stand to profit from economic disaster) baying for blood whilst claiming to represent the will of the people.

The EU is/was never going to give the UK a better deal than the UK had when it was a member. Any deal, even one where the UK stayed in the single market and accepted the ECJ as arbiter of disputes between the EU and UK would have had an economic hit.

All a bit moot really as the UK economy is now properly knackered after the UK government's excellent handling of the Covid 19 crisis. Brexit will merely add to the misery.

I am most worried about my aged parents who will be at the mercy of another round of Tory austerity seeing as one of them is slipping away with dementia and is reliant on the state to assist with their care. The other parent has dual nationality so they can at least still retain freedom of movement and all the benefits of the EU when they need them. The rest of my family are resourceful enough to make their own way albeit in reduced circumstances.

My parachute in the form of a passport for an EEA country came through during the pandemic lockdown earlier in the year. Although with the Norwegian Senterpartiet, who are anti EU, riding high in the polls the advantages that come with EEA membership might disappear. They seem to think that the UK's "renegotiation" of the status quo, aka Brexit, has been such a success that the Norwegian government should seek to renegotiate their EFTA/EEA agreement with the EU.

It is an irony that my parachute that keeps me in the EEA is for me to take the nationality of a country with with a high level of anti EU sentiment among voters. At least I am still in a Schengen country and have full rights within the EU's single market.

I am still a UK national in case anyone wonders about my right to comment on Brexit.

Anyway I really wish the best to all of you, which ever side of the Brexit fence you are. Whatever happens 2021 is going to be a demanding year for everyone.