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by TheJollyJimLad
2 Nov 2012, 2:31pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: The CTC on segregation
Replies: 83
Views: 16329

Re: The CTC on segregation

Now who's using completely unsupported generalisation :lol: Your experiences of the Netherlands et al seems to run completely contrary to the experiences of many others, myself included. I did not hear 'grumblings' in the bars and I've only ever seen people getting about their day on infrastructure ...
by TheJollyJimLad
2 Nov 2012, 12:49pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: The CTC on segregation
Replies: 83
Views: 16329

Re: The CTC on segregation

I hate this type of lane with a passion. http://beta.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/Image_270_Focus/media_library/users/Cherry%20Allan/asl7.jpg Sometimes I despair about idiotic comments like this. But then I go for a ride, and see hundreds of people using bike lanes, and I have hope. If...
by TheJollyJimLad
24 May 2012, 3:27pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

TC - You are inferring too much :D . I was simply making a general point that I can't think of many happy or optimistic film clips regarding cycling in Britain (except 'Cyclists Special'). The Dutch like to show off their achievements. To answer your points though, In the Netherlands, they have full...
by TheJollyJimLad
24 May 2012, 2:21pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

Here is a typical film clip that gets wafted under my nose from the Netherlands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0QjASuuqI or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-ej1eihoU Calm people, getting from A to B, no helmet cams as not many people wear them. Even club cyclists using the provision (I was overta...
by TheJollyJimLad
24 May 2012, 1:07pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

the Dutch cycled every bit as much before the big 1980s spend on cycle paths I'm not sure that is quite true. Dutch cycle use declined steeply in the 70s and then picked up again thereafter. More to the point, the Dutch people seem very happy with their traffic provision and are keen to evangelize ...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 10:00pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

So, despite the fact (according to the Dutch Cycling Embassy writing in The Times) that the Netherlands has 1.1 cycle deaths per 100m kilometres cycled, whereas the UK has three times as many: 3.6 fatalities per 100m kilometres cycled. Despite the fact that these far fewer cycling fatalities occur ...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 5:07pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

But - there's a larger question, and one that Hemborw doesn't get. It's about public space. Public space is just that - it should be there for as many people as want to use it - and the way to make more space available to more people is not to slice it up. Cycle lanes are the privatisation of publi...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 5:02pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

We seem to manage fine without I hate partial quotes but this is the specific bit I do not understand. The Dutch have less deaths so how can we be doing fine? They don't have less deaths (death is death and there's no gradation) - they have fewer. What Simon is trying to point out that with the Dut...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 3:54pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

Simon Funnily enough, according to a report I once read, they tried the same thing in Copenhagen. A lot of money was thrown at their equivalent on LCN+ which failed because, as stated before, it's not where people want to be. In some cases social safety is reduced too. When I lived in London, I tend...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 3:19pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

You haven't really answered the questions and there's no need to be patronising. [I assume] Mr Edwards and I do look around us and obviously see a diferent one to yours which can only appear slanted, particuarly to those outside London. And if you think bicycles are going to take over London from th...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 2:53pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

Simon More people in the Netherlands over the age of 65 cycle than in the UK. Far, far more and don't try to deny it. Clapham High Street is an accidental success because it is a desire line. As stated before, it is the A3, just north of where another desire line (A24) hits it. People are cycling in...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 12:45pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

You seem to be a little selective with the statistics reported. No mention for example that two thirds of cycling deaths in the Netherlands are of people aged 65 and over - i.e. people who don't cycle at all in the UK (or incredibly rarely), or that their deaths are the result of their fragility due...
by TheJollyJimLad
23 May 2012, 11:10am
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...
Replies: 78
Views: 16466

Re: Hear it from Penning. The Dutch have nothing on us...

I'm also scratching my head Mr Edwards :D The YouTube video shows a number of places in a number of cities (Utrecht, 's-Hertogenbosch, even Rotterdam) but the road people seem to be getting so exited about (in a negative way) is the one with the separated bus lane and light rail line. That is indeed...
by TheJollyJimLad
2 Feb 2011, 1:13pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Helmet cams, was BBC Morning TV
Replies: 169
Views: 7508

Re: Helmet cams, was BBC Morning TV

Kwackers Commuting 24 miles a day as I do, I know all too well WHY :D I understand what you are saying and don't disagree. I just think it's really sad (by that I mean I don't think you're sad, I think the whole situation is very sad). We are after all just trying to ride a bike from A to B. That is...
by TheJollyJimLad
2 Feb 2011, 12:41pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Helmet cams, was BBC Morning TV
Replies: 169
Views: 7508

Re: Helmet cams, was BBC Morning TV

I'm not against the use of helmet cameras in any way but reading through some of the comments here - Kwackers in particular using two cameras, I do find myself wondering how did we get here? I find it incredibly sad that it has come to a point that for something as simple as riding a bicycle to work...