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by Ellieb
4 Feb 2020, 3:37pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Why wear black?
Replies: 776
Views: 20762

Re: Why wear black?

WMIDS_HiViz.png "Our colleagues from @HighwaysWMIDS were dealing with a broken down vehicle on the hard shoulder with all their emergency beacons on when someone not paying attention collided with the HE vehicle. Luckily minor injury. " https://twitter.com/CMPG/status/988234947155693570/p...
by Ellieb
31 Jan 2020, 5:11pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

'Common Sense' says that by wearing 'hi-viz' we should be more conspicuous and that drivers should be able to identify us and avoid driving into us. Drivers run into 'hi-viz' objects despite them being "conspicuous", there is no safety advantage that can be identified at population level,...
by Ellieb
31 Jan 2020, 4:57pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

I am visible and I find it easy without any thought or forethought. It seems to be to be an inescapable feature of existing. Human visual cognition isn't just a case of photons reflecting off an object & then directly forming a recogsnisable image in the brain: There is a massive amount of psyc...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 9:56pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

It might be that we should put more effort into making sure drivers are fit to drive. Yes we should. However even if it improved safety, it would still be the case that there would be incidents when 'cyclist wearing dark clothing' contributed to an RTC.... because, as with pilots, no driver is perf...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 9:26pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

The point under discussion was that police advice is confined to only one method of risk reduction. They advise the victims to protect themselves (though there is no good evidence hiviz works) but neglect to take the action which it is their job to take. They do not even bother to remind drivers of...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 9:07pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

It might work, but then again, perhaps he then jemmied the door, or broke a window? Rather like Hiviz or lights. Preventing the danger in the first place would be better. Yes. That's the point. It doesn't guarantee that the bad thing won't happen. There might well be more effective ways of preventi...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 8:32pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

You might be a bit annoyed if the only perceptible police anti-burglar activity was remind you to lock your door.

I’m sure you would.
On the other hand, what if you took note of their advice & it prevented you from being burgled?
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 8:13pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

Whether they should or not is beyond doubt. But they don’t: Given that state of affairs as a cyclist I have the option of attempting to mitigate the risk, or do nothing ‘because I’m not the one responsible for the creation of the risk’ Do I leave my front door unlocked because it’s the burglar who i...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 7:39pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Phantom crossing button pusher - evidence of car centricity?
Replies: 142
Views: 4739

Re: Phantom crossing button pusher - evidence of car centricity?

Someone once choked to death on a walnut, but Sainsbury’s still sell them.
Choked
Deceased
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 6:42pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

If you call it fishing, you're clearly not here for an honest debate. Bit sad, but you won't be the last to do so. [and your answer to the first statement is very bizarre - good luck with that approach :?: ] Well, I am here for an honest debate, but you have quite clearly worded those questions in ...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 5:20pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

Let me ask you a different question - just to test the waters. How would you react to these two pieces of advice, both from a non-cycling driver in your local pub: - Careful riding down Bograbbit Lane tonight, there are some new deep potholes. AND - Careful riding home tonight. Wear your Hi-Viz, or...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 5:04pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

Are the burglars telling you to lock your doors? Does the Highway code tell you to wear dark clothing? This doesn't just come from idiot drivers. Ultimately it doesn't matter that the people responsible for this are the ones driving the cars. Whether it is not riding in the door zone, taking care w...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 4:39pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

Since there are so many bad and dangerous drivers that my feat of driving 20 miles on a grey, misty night without collision is described as "supremely competent", why is there no campaign to remove all of them from our roads I have no problem with that at all. I also think that all burgla...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 4:23pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

risk mitigation is a valid approach, but it needs to actually mitigate risk. I agree that the case has not been proved. But an awful lot of the argument on here is whether it is acceptable to try and mitigate the risk. If bright clothing does have a safety effect then why not use it? Getting knocke...
by Ellieb
30 Jan 2020, 4:02pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs
Replies: 203
Views: 5140

Re: Why does ‘cyclist wearing dark clothing' exist as a contributory factor in KSIs

Which is what every driver should be doing: Mitigating the risk of driving over someone by ensuring the path they will drive their machine over is clear of obstruction. Are you telling us that you don't apply this test? That you cannot? Yes they should, but given some don't: what do you do as a cyc...