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by jrs665
30 Aug 2023, 8:03pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes
Replies: 42
Views: 6861

Re: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes

jrs665 wrote: 12 May 2023, 10:10am Would like to get a trike, ICE trikes look good, but I have a concern about recumbent trikes being too wide to use cycle lane. Been told that they are no wider than a bikes handlebars or your shoulders, yet the specs for the ICE ADventure quotes overall width as 31.5-32.5 inches which is considerably wider than the 17 inches of my endurance bike.

Has anyone had trouble using a trike in cycle lanes?

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UPDATE:

Ended up getting an ICE Sprint X Tour with rear suspension.

The trike has had no problems using any of the cycle lanes in Edinburgh that I have used.

I also find that have no trouble being seen and no issues on the road, drivers giving the trike plenty of space.

Compared to a bicycle , the trike makes one feel alot safer.
by Tigerbiten
12 May 2023, 3:08pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes
Replies: 42
Views: 6861

Re: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes

Going through a gap my ICT trike is a similar width as a bike, if a bike easily goes through then my trike will normal fit through as well.
But on the road my trike is a lot wider than a bike. The reason being is that on the road I'll put my inside front wheel where a bikes front wheel would be. That's a safe distance from the curb and out of the gutter. Then the centre line of the trike is where a bike handlebar ends and the other half of the trike is even further out.
This makes it safer as I'm almost always riding in a primary position. Anything wanting to overtake me needs to pull out into the other lane and cannot just squeeze through. If I'm doing sub 4 mph uphill then I may move over into the gutter to let traffic squeeze through. But that's my decision and if the traffic starts going passed to fast, I'll move out to slow it down as is my right.
If a cycle lane is to narrow to safely fit the trike then I tend to straddle the line. Inside front in the cycle lane, back on the line, outside front outside the cycle lane. If asked why I'm not using the lane, then my answer is "I am" as I've one wheel in it, but it's not my fault the lanes to narrow to fit the whole trike in it.

Luck ......... :D
by jrs665
12 May 2023, 11:01am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes
Replies: 42
Views: 6861

Re: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes

Jdsk wrote: 12 May 2023, 10:14am Common problems with barriers, unfortunately:
search.php?keywords=trike+barrier

But do you mean lanes without barriers, in which case:
search.php?keywords=trike+width+lane

Jonathan
I am referring to lanes like the following which are common in edinburgh. Would make me feel very guilty if I couldn't use it as would be holding up all the traffic behind me.

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@55.9 ... X6nabQTrvA
by Jdsk
12 May 2023, 10:14am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes
Replies: 42
Views: 6861

Re: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes

Common problems with barriers, unfortunately:
search.php?keywords=trike+barrier

But do you mean lanes without barriers, in which case:
search.php?keywords=trike+width+lane

Jonathan
by jrs665
12 May 2023, 10:10am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes
Replies: 42
Views: 6861

Recumbent Trike and Cycle Lanes

Would like to get a trike, ICE trikes look good, but I have a concern about recumbent trikes being too wide to use cycle lane. Been told that they are no wider than a bikes handlebars or your shoulders, yet the specs for the ICE ADventure quotes overall width as 31.5-32.5 inches which is considerably wider than the 17 inches of my endurance bike.

Has anyone had trouble using a trike in cycle lanes?

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by merseymouth
27 Sep 2020, 7:26am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Pop Up Cycle Lanes.
Replies: 28
Views: 1778

Re: Pop Up Cycle Lanes.

Hello again, They get worse? I made a fuller inspection of the silly things in an extended tour of the nearby locations.
The vandalism continues, at my original area. I turned left down a road that has also has had the things installed. More vandalism, with uprooted post. Further along that road the installation team would appear to attempt to make removal much harder, by installing screws through the base to prevent the posts from being twisted out.
So now the pond-life use similar force to knock them over, now horizontal they can't be readily made upright again. Some still get removed so not nice.
The unvandalized corridors are still quite narrow for comfortable travel on my trike, but even then any surface irregularities are unavoidable due to the confined nature of the routes, one has to hit grids and holes and hope for the best!
But then at some points, one on an approach to a pedestrian crossing, the lane narrows to a silly point? When manually placed , Not Ridden, in between the posts it give clearance of about 5", yes the width of two mountain bike tyres! Try to ride through at anything faster than snail's pace if seriously risky!
The site is currently undergoing pavement remedial work, with one way access for motor vehicles, the two cycles lanes (one in each direction) remain accessible, but the one going in the direction of motor travel is interrupted at several points by fences to allow pavement work to take place, there the cyclists must try to bet out into the traffic flow!
Add to the mix motor vehicles parked obstructing both cycle lane and pavement then you have a serious mess!
I should point out that many of the riders who these "Safety Facilities" have been put in place to improve their safety find them seriously hazardous, quite intimidating. Absolute minimal wiggle room even for bicycles, not a nice idea!
Now my trike is not overly wide, I have friends with wider barrows, that is even worse for Tandem-Trike riders, which are wider again. Should veteran machine riders using a bicycle or tandem bicycle fitted with a sidecar try to use these roads they would find it impossible!
I have ridden many and varied cycles, so know that I wouldn't have a hope in hell of being able to ride a 1880's Singer Tricycle, 46" wheels, solid tyres, but still used by V-CC members, it would make roads a no-go area. I could go on? MM
by tatanab
16 Jun 2020, 5:36pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Warrington gets its very own pop-up cycle lane
Replies: 21
Views: 1391

Re: Warrington gets its very own pop-up cycle lane

1.2m - I wonder how they measured it. I bet it is cone centre to the fence. Now allow say 15cm for the kerb and 15cm from cone centre to edge of base, and the riding width becomes 0.9 m. My trike is 0.75m so that allows 7cm (less than 3") either side for wobble factor. Of course this is before the cones get pushed out of place.
by NATURAL ANKLING
23 Jul 2018, 10:06am
Forum: Off-road Cycling.
Topic: The Westcountry Way (Across The Moors)
Replies: 21
Views: 12901

Re: The Westcountry Way (Across The Moors)

Hi,
Well all best laid plans (Robert Burns).
I am not sure what I would of done different, apart from of got a garmin earlier :?

Spent much time as usual getting all my stuff ready, doing last minute repairs etc.
Had plenty of food as usual and because I was not intending to stop this works best for me, down side is extra pannier.
Worried that I was going to miss the start and cycle right past wasting time I stopped and asked a local to confirm I was in the right place, always a god idea to ask someone that's waiting to go to work.
The start at Plymouth officially as per route is The Hoe, but I decided that this was not necessary for me, so I started just below sultram house on the a379.
Easy ride through the estate at sultram, a couple of wiggles to get on the drakes trail.
Drakes trail has improved and is easy and fast although up hill, because it has hedges both sides nothing much to report here.
Met a guy on a road bike with 28mm, easy going. Nattered away up to clearbroke where you head due east to nattor the start of off road proper to go over eylesbarrow to princetown, the climb up is on a track but its always been rocky, fell off twice onto grass verge and dismounted half a dozen times, when you get to the top of eylesbarrow it flattens so some rocky stuff is bearable, mtb here is easy enough but I was struggling and dispite beating a full sus mtb up the climb was left when the course flattened.
As you progress to prince town, its well paved here, a trike would be harder and slower on all the rocky stuff, also width because of a sunken path would prove very difficult. Easy on a unladen mtb but hard if carrying gear up to the top of climb. Good views and a very good view coming into princetown of the prison. 50% paved with course grit, 50 % rocks although on a track. All rideable on a mtb / hybrid with some zest.
Prince town to hexworthy, grassy / track (see pics) going north down hill most, 20 % paved track (grit) rest is grassy / unrideable at times so at least 20% pushing bike, section at farm on route unrideable without front sus bike, need some energy here.
Met a guy from Holland hiking the moors.
Hexworthy to Belever, two rivers to cross (see pics) had to push bike through water whilst using stepping stones water 18" deep, not easy unless you want to wade through on rocky bed. Mostly hard work with exposed tree routes and climbs that are too steep to ride up.
A track gravel on last mile to belever (youth hostel). At times wil test a trials mtber, you will sweat and struggle here!
Belever to challacombe, this is all rideable with tracks 99% rideable even for me on the tourer :)
Chalacombe to beetor cross, I went noth at hookner tor down a grassy hill instead of east down downhill to lower hookner, which looks steep on a grass path?
Beetor cross to drewstation, I followed the road not some of the paths? as I could not map read to that detail.
At drewstation I must of wasted a hour trying to do the impossible down a rocky path missing the bridlepath above the river :(
This path is exhilarating as I remember from past and dangerous! Two old ladies waiting for bus gave me directions and offered me a banana some water and sweets, but I declined as I had all of that on board, insisted I take the largest sweet which I did after saying a small piece :)
My inability to follow my very crude paper map, a screen shot off computer.
From hear to brushford north of North Tawton I followed road as best I could, there are paths and tracks here but I could not see or find them :?
Because of my crude maps printed off computer of route, at this point where I packed it in, I estimate now that I had added another twelve miles to my travel by going wrong way and going round incircles and retrying roads in an attempt to get back on coure, so crude was my maps that they had few names, my only saving grace was my 99p compass without I would of given up way back after getting off the moors :!:
I estimated at the time that I had another 40 miles to do, which at my present progress 9 mph would take me some five hours at now 21.00, meaning getting to minehead past 02.00 am some four hours navigating in the dark. add the 72 to get home,
Packed in after talking to missus on the mobile, battery was flat sometime back but had a spare one.
Hobbled back to a b road south and onto Crediton where I sat down for lift.

Mmm, fed up at the time but feel better now but ache a lot, painfull to sit down, hands feet and back hurt still one day on.
Bike on its own was not a problem for me but a tad heavy unsupported, carrying some 3+ litres of water at times, sweated lots right into my shoes too, if I had only had a garmin I would of been well ahead on time and 12 miles shorter too, I did not stop much but lots of looking at crude maps and compass.......................so lots of time wasting, I am patient but gave up in the end.

The ride over Dartmoor would be an experience if you have not been there before, but leaving the moor you would probably be thankfull to hit some roads, obviously taking more time at a reduced rate would be more pleasant for sure for most.
Overall my 9. something mph with the moor section I estimate at about 7 mph travelling wasent that bad, the road stuff after leaving moors would of been faster If I had not of got lost so often. 113 miles done but first 27 and last 7-9 was getting on and off course.
77 miles on coarse which included 12 or so going no where....................
Sorry for the boring old post, and not completing at all.
A more laid back approach with a group and some overnight stays would appeal to adventurous types for sure, not sure that the milage down single lane roads between the moors would not leave you a bit jaded, I might be wrong here, Exmoor route I have either walked /cycled all of it off road and would be pleasant if not very hilly, meaning pushing with puffing for all but the very fit and young.
Will post pictures :) later, camera was affected by drissel but some amusing stuff when working :)
Bike was superb as usual, it was drisselwhen I set of at 05.10 am until gone midday but mild of course.
Rim brakes will need adjusting often in wet weather for sure, dispite the 700c mich world tour tyres grip was good, But I have greelaned much on this bike, summer time you will only need hybrid tyres for sure.
Think twice at attempting this in bad weather, you will be walking lots.
Lots of grammar errors :oops:

http://dartefacts.co.uk/dartefact/winfo ... nes-284-m/
Water was 18 " deep, stones are easy but not with bike
Water was 18 " deep, stones are easy but not with bike

http://mydartmoorwalks.blogspot.com/201 ... round.html
Unless it a light bike (10Ibs) you will need to push it through water.
Unless it a light bike (10Ibs) you will need to push it through water.

Local wildlife - Looking south from south hessary tor, paved grit easy.
Local wildlife - Looking south from south hessary tor, paved grit easy.
by Tigerbiten
12 Apr 2016, 5:36pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Passing clearance - motion at AGM
Replies: 258
Views: 26324

Re: Passing clearance - motion at AGM

Steady rider wrote:The low kerb or angled kerb helps to provide an effective wider path, where the pedals are more likely to miss the kerb, high square kerbs limit the effective space for cycling, e.g say 200mm clearance, could be say 140mm with a low angled kerb, making the lane 120mm wider effectively, on 3 m width with 200 clearance, 2.6 space, 140mm clearance 2.72 roughly.

Don't forget the minority.
A low kerb or angled kerb makes no difference to the width of a path if you ride a trike or pull a two wheeled trailer. I do both.

If this passes, I don't see it making much of a difference short term.
I take the long term view that it will help change some drivers mind set and thing will slowly improve.
by Steady rider
23 Dec 2014, 6:36pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: "New Cycle Lane a Death Trap"
Replies: 56
Views: 8393

Re: "New Cycle Lane a Death Trap"

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.93208 ... !2e0?hl=en
care is required when passing another cyclist or pedestrians, I will measure the width one of these days, it does not have road junctions until it reaches Pocklington. 800 mm wide trike could be a problem.
by hercule
6 Apr 2014, 10:51am
Forum: Non-standard, Human Powered Vehicles
Topic: Venturing Out.....Safely....
Replies: 40
Views: 21385

Re: Venturing Out.....Safely....

Both my Fuego and my Trice QNT sport a large Radical rack bag which adds a large amount of yellow and reflective conspicuousness. The Fuego is appreciably higher than the QNT. Both are about the same width with rider installed - my elbows stick out about the same on both machines. Yet the passing distances I get on the recumbent bike are only marginally more than on uprights, whereas on the trike I'm given more or less a whole lane to myself. It's not about how low or otherwise you are and despite what "common sense" says I feel far safer with my bum a couple of inches from the ground on my trike than on any two wheeler, however high and apparently conspicuous.
by resus1uk
1 Mar 2014, 9:32pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: cycle lane width
Replies: 15
Views: 17609

Re: cycle lane width

Triking around York yesterday, I found many narrow entries/exits from otherwise useable lanes. Often these are a narrow track between kerb stones.
New lane at Monks Cross near the new M&S/John lewis has a 30 mph signpost right in the middle of the path.
Main roads like the Malton road and Huntingdon Road have a long left lane which is just wide enough.
A trike should easily fit a standard lane if 1.5 metres is the norm.
Dogs and pedestrians seem to mis-judge the width of a trike or presence of a third wheel, and get too close
by mrjemm
20 Oct 2013, 7:03am
Forum: Non-standard, Human Powered Vehicles
Topic: Trike routing limitations and compensation
Replies: 64
Views: 24366

Trike routing limitations and compensation

With my planning to get into this corner of things, I've been pondering where I'll be riding once settled in and comfy. What keeps occurring though is that the nature of these beasties creates a level of route limitation, largely down to their width, but for me also the thought that I'd likely tend away from population centres for avoidance of attention.

Do some of you also consider these things, or am I making too much an issue of this in my head? Are there things you consider when routing that wouldn't obviously spring to mind to an outsider? Do you find the popular advantages of such machines compensate for potential routing challenges, or perhaps find there are other aspects of the differences that are worth contemplating?

I don't think I am putting this across very clearly, sorry. Part of it, I think, is that I have a vague feeling that I'll be using it in a completely different way to a normal bike; that I'll have a different mindset in using it.

Going back to the more general routing aspect, do you find there's a particular type of road and topography that lends itself to this type of vehicle? Around my way there's an interesting mix of topography, from coastal plain to hill and dale, though far more of the latter. My biggest concern is more the back lane issue of being a boy-racer playground than anything physical, but that's the same for all vulnerable road users of course.
by Pete Owens
18 Sep 2011, 11:30pm
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Anyone else having cycle lane width problems?
Replies: 55
Views: 8130

Re: Anyone else having cycle lane width problems?

Tigerbiten wrote:Remember there is non-standard bikes out there.

I always have trouble with most cycle lanes as they are not wide enough.
99% of the time I have to have one or more wheels outside the lane.
But then again my recumbent trike is just over one meter wide.
So even a 1.5 meter lane is only just wide enough to fit the trike in if I'm cycling 0.5 meters from the curb.


And standard bikes need every bit as much space as your trike.

Remember, we are taking about the width of the cyclist at elbow height, not the width of the wheel - plus you need to allow for the side to side wobble that is an essential feature of balancing a two wheeler. The dynamic envelope (the width physically occupied by a cyclist progressing in a straight line) comes out at 1m and you need to allow the same 0.5m safety margin on either side.

Some folk even go as far to suggest that it might be a good idea for cyclists to perform hand signals.
by TonyR
17 Sep 2011, 10:23am
Forum: Campaigning & Public Policy
Topic: Anyone else having cycle lane width problems?
Replies: 55
Views: 8130

Re: Anyone else having cycle lane width problems?

Tigerbiten wrote:
Richard Mann wrote:this only requires about 1.0m, slightly less at a pinch.

Remember there is non-standard bikes out there.

I always have trouble with most cycle lanes as they are not wide enough.
99% of the time I have to have one or more wheels outside the lane.
But then again my recumbent trike is just over one meter wide.
So even a 1.5 meter lane is only just wide enough to fit the trike in if I'm cycling 0.5 meters from the curb.



Like this you mean?