hippyonwheels wrote:Hi, looking to get myself a set of the one of the above tyres but struggling to see what's the difference- obviously the Marathon Pluses are more expensive but why?
My riding is about 60 percent road and 40 percent tow path and fairly hard packed trail.
How many punctures ? If you get punctures, are they from glass, thorns, ... ?
How much mud ?
What tyres do you have now ? What size tyres can you fit ?
Marathon Plus - in all its varieties - has a thick, heavy, stiff carcass that doesn't grip too well - perhaps because of the stiff, heavy carcass. The tread compound seems hard too. But it is about the most puncture resistant tyre available. Not invulnerable, but very hard to puncture. If you have a bad puncture problem, or it's very awkward to fix a rear puncture (some hub gears), you really want M+.
As implied earlier, most punctures are at the back, so unless you get lots of front punctures, a lighter, grippier, more compliant, and possibly cheaper front tyre would be safer and more comfortable than a pair of M+.
If you don't have a bad puncture problem, you do not want M+.
Mud.
Normal Marathons, M+ have tread only to reasure naive buyers. They are not going to grip in mud, and the token tread will not help grip clean surfaces. Slick tyres would grip better.
If you have muddy uphill/downhill sections, not just the odd muddy patch on the flat, you need something with knobbly bits. Start looking at cyclocross or even MTB tyres.
My favourite on/off road tyre is the (just discontinued, still available) Marathon Cross, which is tough, light (& compliant) for its size, has soft rubber that grips wet roads, and works over a very wide range of pressures. The most recommended such tyre seems to be the cheaper Land Cruiser, which I have seen, but not tried. M+ is available with knobbly bits.
If your towpath and trail are well drained, so knobbly bits don't help, you can look at wide road tyres like 28mm Schwalbe Ultremo ZX or Vittoria Rubino Pro. These are light. flexible, grippy tyres. Excellent road tyres, but fat enough to be OK on clean off-road.
A bit heavier & tougher are road tyres like Schwalbe Durano and Durano Plus - like M and M+, but lighter roadie tyres.
Heavier and tougher again, and we're back to the standard Marathons.