Abr1966 wrote: just planning to put the tent and may on the rack with a couple of bungee cords?
HobbesOnTour wrote:
Hi,
I've ridden sections of the Rhine at different times over the last few years and just back from doing a lap of Lake Constance and up the Rhine to Bonn.
bikepacker wrote:psmiffy wrote:That is exactly the reason why when I am i France I use Camping Gaz- available in most larger supermarkets and hardware stores - it can be a long way between Decathlons
The other Edelrid adaptor for the valve cartridge gives you the flexibility to use either with a screw thread stove. https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk ... aptor-p454
Ivor Tingting wrote:You try buying a screw top fitting butane/propane canister in France and it's hard. They can be found but not easily. I wouldn't use Camping Gaz for this reason.
- available in most larger supermarkets and hardware stores - it can be a long way between Decathlons bikepacker wrote:These cartridges with my current Edelrid adaptor https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk ... aptor-p390 are the best backup for gas stoves
foxyrider wrote:psmiffy wrote:it is equally possible with the resealable canisters to have a "moment" if you are careless
How?
Screw stove onto top tightly - job done. There may be a tiny leakage when you remove the stove but that's it. So how can you have a 'moment'?
- camping in NZ one evening the gas ran out mid-dinner - no problem I have a spare - change canister and relight - unfortunately did not close off the valve before attaching the new cylinder - gas pooled on the ground ignited - singed legs and a bit of a shock Slowroad wrote:while Wilko don't seem to stock theirs any more.
horizon wrote:I'm just wondering now what kind of journeys people undertake that require gps.
ibbo68 wrote:
I can look at a route on a map,study it and then navigate it from memory.It's much easier on road than off as you have place names/signs etc but I rarely need to look at a map en-route.I've done this in the UK,France and now Mallorca.I can also do it off-road but it does need more time to study.It really isn't difficult!Once I've done a route once,on or off road I remember it.It's there forever!
I'm the same when driving.I've driven all over France and Italy and once I know where I'm going I just drive there.I was a motorcycle courier for 5 years in the early 90s and although I was OK before this I'm sure it helped.
If I'm going on a route I've not done before with someone I always get them to send me the gpx so I can look at the route on Memory map so I know the route in my head before we set off whether they're using a GPS or riding a regular route.
Richard Fairhurst wrote:meic wrote:I had a GPS "failure" on my recent trip.
The track provided by Cycletravel.co.uk was taking me over some ploughed fields, for an excessive distance. The GPS's own routing offered the same ploughed fields (using OSM).
Can you let me know where, so I can fix it?
tatanab wrote:Not really since maps are used time after time unless making a one off visit such as my tour of New Zealand 12 years ago. My European maps are used many times over and replaced when too dog-eared.meic wrote:As pointed out, maps for a tour could weigh about a kilogram and cost about £50 for each tour.
Warin61 wrote:
The advantage of a true paper map is the large 'screen' size, making overview planing easy.
Warin61 wrote:
You have left off the poll the smart phone use as a GPS.
- i suppose even though i normally have both GPS capable phone and tablet with me on tour i never use them to navigate anywhere ukdodger wrote:Depends what you're trying to achieve. If your pleasure is just in the touring a GPS gives turn by turn information so you dont have to think about navigating. But if you enjoy navigating as much as touring then your way is best.
Personally the only thing I have against GPS's is when touring in groups they allow a group to break up because everyone can travel at their own speed. So some comaradie is lost. Part of the pleasure in cycling.
- I dont think about navigation - It is not something I consciously do - It must happen but its not something i get stressed about or for that matter "enjoy" - do people really regard navigation as a separate activity while touring ?ossie wrote:I cant imagine the cost of buying detailed maps for example on the 1500 mile tour I did the year before last.
ukdodger wrote:
It's a sensitive device getting a rough ride without shock absorbers. Backing it up doesnt seem unreasonable to me considering it's importence and all the other spares we carry.