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pete75 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2025, 1:04am

reohn2 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2025, 11:59pm

Bonefishblues wrote: ↑19 Feb 2025, 12:34pm
It's time for Europe to step up, for sure.

Spot on!
Now it's a question will we stop the march of tyrants or a case of as Pete75 wants to just let the Russians have us as well as them.
These are dark times for Europe unless it can get itself truly united,and I count the UK as part of that unification,it's time for real leadership.

I never said that, and your view that Russia will invade NATO members in Europe is pure fantasy. Still some people need a bogeyman to frighten the children.

Yes, leave them to the Russians.

Carlton green wrote: ↑20 Feb 2025, 7:35am

cycle tramp wrote: ↑20 Feb 2025, 7:06am ...although less of a fantasy.. if Trump decides not to be involved as there are 'miles and miles of peacedul ocean' between America and Russia' Perhaps the only childish belief is that America will come to our aid, should Russia invade a nato country...

^^ This. Those that think the unthinkable can not happen are in for a shock. The shock might take time to arrive but a patient adversary will just keep patiently chipping away at things and take their opportunities to advance.

Bonefishblues wrote: ↑19 Feb 2025, 12:34pm
It's time for Europe to step up, for sure.

djnotts wrote: ↑19 Feb 2025, 9:20am

Stradageek wrote: ↑19 Feb 2025, 9:02am Trump, Hesgeth and Vance seem to be delighting in insulting anyone who is not an American, above all else. They've clearly never heard of diplomacy. It's a bit scary

Have they been insulting any Russians?!

They've heard of diplomacy, simply decided it's not for them!

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑19 Feb 2025, 10:25am "The US has taken sides against democracy"


https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/ ... irect=true

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑18 Feb 2025, 8:08pm .........The US is now a Russian ally.

If Ukraine were it's ally, it would agree a position with Ukraine, then present it to Russia. The opposite is happening.

pete75 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2025, 9:07am Yes, leave them to the Russians.

pete75 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2025, 9:05am The point is, it's possible to export electricity as shown by FRance and Denmark.

djnotts wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 7:21pm ^ reohn2: "Europe,as we know it,is on the cusp of survival make no mistake about it,the money will be found otherwise it will be similar to WW2,the difference is that this time we have to stand up for ourselves because we can't count on the Trump gangster regime to help us out,the alternative is that we become the "menu"
It's wake up time for Europe folks we've spent to much time relying on the yank"

Well, yes and no. I'm not convinced that the money WILL be found. Those very few rich who rule will decide and it doesn't really matter to them whether or not Europe survives "as we know it". Actually they'd prefer it NOT to be as it is now.

pete75 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 8:39pm

reohn2 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 5:08pm

pete75 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:59pm
It can be. Viking Link, which tarnsports electricity between England and Denmark, started operating at the end of 2023.

But more than likely not,used mainly for the domestic market.

It has been in constant use since the end of 2023. I saw them building it, seen the substations. It is there and can send electricity in either direction. There's been an undersea cable between Britian and france for many years, used for transfer of electricity between the two countries.
It's perfectly possible to export electricity, however it's produced. Basically all it needs is a bit of wire and some control gear.

pete75 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:59pm

reohn2 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:53pm

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:45pm

Oil and gas are sold in a global market. Even if there were extra supply from UK fracking and even if it was possible quickly (both highly unlikely) it would make no signify difference to global supply.

Extraction cost is irrelevant.

Whereas renewables reduce demand for gas, directly reducing costs if gas prices are high.

Correct,because renewable sourced energy can't be exported,presently at least.

It can be. Viking Link, which tarnsports electricity between England and Denmark, started operating at the end of 2023.

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:45pm

UpWrong wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:24pm

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:20pm

Why do you think that allowing fracking would magically reduce energy costs in the UK?

By increasing supply. Aren't our gas prices stratospheric? But I haven't seen an economic plan of how it compares to North Sea gas fields in terns of extraction costs.

Oil and gas are sold in a global market. Even if there were extra supply from UK fracking and even if it was possible quickly (both highly unlikely) it would make no signify difference to global supply.

Extraction cost is irrelevant.

Whereas renewables reduce demand for gas, directly reducing costs if gas prices are high.

cycle tramp wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 4:17pm

Nearholmer wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 3:39pm Unique, yes, exceptional, which implies special or superior, no.

The idea that the UK, or is it Britain, will somehow always do jolly well, because we are a special bunch or people, or there’s something unique about our history that ensures that we’ll always do well, is simply hubris, and we all know what comes after that.

We do do pretty well, despite our small size, the “punching above our weight” thing has a grain of truth in it, or at least has had so far, but we increasingly do “OK, precariously”. Having a sort of Meccano Magazine editorial view of our place in the world won’t help us.

(I strongly recommend reading a few 1950s Meccano Magazines, to get an idea of how deluded the popular British self-image was at the time. The sudden death of British manufacturing that followed must have come as one heck of a shock to anyone who wasn’t looking over the horizon. It’s no wonder that many people who had their formative years in that era still can’t get their heads around the idea that the sun set, and that the workshop of the world moved premises)

Oh absolutely, but that's not to say we give up, roll over and die... what we need right now is money... and no one is going simply give us that without anything in return..