horizon wrote:Mike, are you sure about your weights?
Yeah pretty sure.
Thanks all for your comments... very very helpful
For a variety of reasons it seems I will see a difference. I'm not planning to do any major touring, probably long day rides, but also for some commuting use (hilly commuting at that). I will look at the Audax end of the market too before I finally make a decision as it occurs I won't need the full on luggage capacity of a tourer most of the time and I therefore can shave quite a few pounds of with a triple audax and fit some mudguards.