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^^^^^^ Spot on
and if you go to a decent local grocery shop the fruit will be ripe and dribble down your chin, not like the concrete pears the supermarkets sell.

How do we get the message to people?

So the op is happy to protect a couple of thousand birds by trying to get tourists to avoid a whole country (not just the island itself where it occurs).

Therefore the op is happy to try to decimate the entire tourist industry of Scotland, plunging Thousands of people below the poverty line employed from it, who are innocent to the cause.

Selective suffering of choice it seems to me. Perhaps the op could justify this?

So 10% are not then. Am sure that makes those animals feel much better knowing the other 90% are ok. My point is if the op is avoiding scotland because a small community kills a few hundred birds cruelly, is he avoiding England where tens of thousands of animals are cruelly slaughtered weekly in Halal and kosher abbattoirs?

For the record I eat curries in restaurants so am not banging a personal gong on this.

Do you boycott England where every town and city has an asian takeaway serving Halal killed meat (throat cut without any pre stunning and left to bleed to death in pain) in their curries?

I blame Wiggle

Si wrote:Enough already with da pedantry concerning the use of Inglish. We've seen it all before - someone, like, starts pointing out the errors in others posts, then everyone else steams in pointing out the errors in theirs (there's, they'res, they're's, etc), then we have a bit of hand bags at dawn, innit. Any more squabbling and I'll have you all copying out the first chapter of 'eats shoots and leaves' a hundred times. Just ain't worth it.

FWIW, I think of the forum like this: it's just a load of people having a number of informal chats, like you might find in any pub or cafe. Now, if it were official reports or CVs or sumit like that then I'd expect the grammar/spelling/etc to be pinged, and I'm sure that the vast majority of people on the forum are perfectly capable of writing 'proper-inglish' if the occasion warrants it. So, if you were in a pub would you walk around, eavesdropping on conversations and butting in to point out all of the grammatical mistakes? I think not. So, as long as what people post here is easily comprehensible then I try to keep my grammar/spelling/syntax nazism at bay.

However, if poor grammar/spelling/syntax does wind you up, then feel free to start a new thread about it in general terms rather than specifically high lighting errors in any individual post.

This^^^^^^^ enough said!

(Except

Ayesha wrote:If the OP was sat at his PC at home with the new lamps by his side, he had indeed brought them from Wilko's.

'If the OP was sitting'.......

Oh shoot, stop me)

Kevin Mayne wrote:
The Charity Commission rejected our first application because they have some concerns that we will need to address before we can go ahead. We are going to take some additional advice about the best way forward from here, including how we handle the different approaches taken by the Scottish and English regulators.

It’s not a show stopper in anyone’s mind and its certainly not something I assumed we would be putting on the web site

Sorry if the actual story is somewhat underwhelming,

Kevin Mayne

What a pity the only place the members of the CTC can find out the reason of refusal is on a backwater thread on a forum started by a random forum member.
An even bigger pity that the reason given of nothing being on the CTC main news page is that the members are bored with boring information about these apparently piffling matters of admin.

I respectfully suggest, Sir, that you have a fast sea change of respect for your fellow members, membership fee payers and stakeholders in your organisation, many of whom read more than the Daily Star and wish to promptly have information on the members website on matters important as this.

A complacent and disdainful culture towards members in any organisation usually results in an uprising eventually against the hierarchy as happened against the very soon ousted CEO of the British Association of Ski Instructors a few years ago.

If not too damaged or smelly, stitch it back on!

My friends brother, when we were youngish, teenagers, was riding fixed. He bent down whilst riding to pull the toe clip tight, finger went round the chainwheel and dropped onto the road. His father went back from the hospital to try to find it but found nothing. Ouch.

So sorry the family & friends of the victim. I'm also sure the motocyclists family are devastated he apparently killed an innocent man and will be thinking them too.

Nothing can be said here to make them feel better so soon after the crash. Please take courage that there is life beyond this huge devastation. Time is needed but that won't help just now

Peter

Fair points.

I think the point I am making is only occasionally will a car be near it's limit with the rider in the area I refer to, where as a rough guess something like 30% (non scientific ) of bikers are trusting in God so to speak.

Or put another way, how often do the Police or councils spend to put banners up to make car drivers and truck drivers think about their driving, compared to the "to die for" et al signs / banners on many country roads known for biker problems?

Meic, IMHO that is a very poor argument in view of this thread.

Come and ride with me one Sunday morning on the roads around Squires cafe near Sherburn with 1100's blasting round bends at 80 mph+ whilst we are doing 20mph ish, watching them come at us and tell me you don't sh1t yourself sometimes.

I write this because I don't want my family and friends to be in the same position of Devastated 36 or her friends / family.
Hopefully I wouldn't know anything about it if I was hit.

I truely feel for you D36 and all your family / friends and those of the motorcycle rider, I truely do.

But the above posts have to be aired and said. What chance has a licra clad, polystirene helmet wearing 25mph cyclist against a combind collision speed of 100mph plus with a leather suited with hard joint protection, hard helmeted biker with metal bits sticking out from the machine?

I say again I am not being argumentative. I am just sick and tired of being put in the same position as the cyclist who died whilst I am cycling 'round my way'. Yesterday I came home after a 55 miler near there.
unfortunately neither the biker or cyclist did in this case.

The real tradgedy now is D36 and everyone she knows left to feel the pain and loss from this. It is all so needless and avoidable but it will never stop as long as we boys have testosterone will it?

Please all drive / bike carefully every time.

But saying a cycle collided with a motorcyclist isn't neutral, it infers the cyclist did the colliding.
Saying a cyclist and a motorcyclist collided and investigations are ongoing is neutral however and that is how it should be worded IMHO.

Regularly get 'buzzed' by bikers. A near to home route into and back from the vale of york takes Leeds cyclists through Aberford and Sherburn in Elmet, near to the famous bikers cafe. Many of them go flat out round bends in this area on their way to and from the cafe. Too many times they have come towards me, apexed a bend I'm on and the wheels are twitching on the white lines / cats eyes. One mistake and they would be straight into me as they slid across the road.

At least in the car you have some protection. On the cycle, well, you've just witnessed the reality.

It really spoils this area for riding sometimes and there isn't a way to stop it.