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by wearwell
12 Dec 2016, 4:47am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

The utility cyclist wrote:.....look at how hi-vis & helmets have been an utter disaster!.....

Have they? In what way?
Personally I make a point of high viz (on busy roads at least) and wear my yellow top most of the time. Sometimes you can feel the difference - the sense of people slowing down and passing wider.
by wearwell
11 Dec 2016, 7:04pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

Whilst there is the concept of a standard of driving "expected of a competent and careful driver", the law would do well to make some sort of clear link between that and the concept of driving in such a way that human error or—perhaps more importantly—physical or mental disability on the ...
by wearwell
11 Dec 2016, 11:33am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner DOES NOT blame headphones

...... So while it's perfectly reasonable argue that a sound that causes you not to hear something can be a cognitive distraction, I don't think you can argue that not hearing something can be a cognitive distraction. It doesn't make any logical sense. The two things are quite different. "it's...
by wearwell
10 Dec 2016, 9:34am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

Yes its appalling that the mail blames the victim - but this doesn't make wearing earphones a safe thing to do in the vicinity of traffic.

Would you advise your child to wear earphones on the street as pedestrian or cyclist?
by wearwell
9 Dec 2016, 5:15pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

Can't see what the fuss is about. If the coroner's speculations actually deter anybody from wearing earphones whilst they cycle then that is a good thing. It wasn't wild guesswork at all - he's looking for causes and that she didn't hear the approaching vehicle could well be one of them, for simple ...
by wearwell
9 Dec 2016, 12:28pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner DOES NOT blame headphones

He could have said "There is no evidence that the wearing of headphones caused this accident, however, it is open to speculation that it may have been a minor contributory factor". ... Which is more or less what he said - though he made no mention of it being "minor contributory fact...
by wearwell
9 Dec 2016, 9:30am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

Well yes. If noise is a cue to a possible hazard you need to be able to hear it, but this could be a trade-off against ear protection in a very noisy environment.
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 10:47pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

.. So the lack of hearing had very little effect on our safety...... ..... But the roads are an entirely different environment. The only serious threat to a cyclist's safety is other vehicles. Vehicles are also the only source of noise on a typical road. Hence the noise is closely associated with t...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 9:41pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

Very odd all these doubters who think you don't need to hear what's going on around you. Try riding with ear plugs, on a busy road - you will soon get the idea. I have another question (which you will no doubt consider stupid): If you cannot (as you say and I agree) determine where a vehicle is from...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 8:18pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

How can the coroners comment be "fair" when there simply is no evidence to suggest hearing impairment or wearing earphones causes people on bikes to be distratced and/or induces them into making mistakes, there is no evidence to be able to make that speculation, it is a pure guess and a p...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 5:51pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

.......... Ahh yes, the problem of the Invisible Cyclists . I call rubbish on that one and to illustrate my point, someone else's vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8pX52v_yNA&index=68&list=LLxh0QwWxK6TvHL4CF7hf0Tg What is that supposed to show? He was clearly visible. The van driver was...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 4:29pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

wearing earphones will have this effect By extension, anything covering the ears will similarly reduce hearing. Should motorcycle helmets be banned? Should my wooly hat be banned? Radios in cars - particularly the ones where you can hear the booming bass from the other end of town - must reduce dri...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 12:20pm
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

... You said "in this case she was at risk wearing earphones". There seems no evidential basis for this, hence my remark that it's confirmation bias. Granted, to be strictly accurate I should have said "wearing earphones" instead of "listening to music".....) Anything ...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 11:29am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

.... All your statement says is that you don't really care what happened in this situation, you're going to use it as confirmation bias that listening to music must increase risk. You're just making assumptions. ..... If you bothered to read what I said you would see that I made no mention of liste...
by wearwell
8 Dec 2016, 10:11am
Forum: On the road
Topic: Coroner blames headphones
Replies: 174
Views: 12488

Re: Coroner blames headphones

Not if the surgeon needed to actually hear something as part of the procedure. You're doing what the media have been doing, and conflating the two issues of distraction and reduced auditory function. They are absolutely not the same thing . The coroner referred only to the former. For a cyclist, li...