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Not knowing the bags but could one be inside the other. It's the sort of thing I have had a panic over in the past.
Practical Cycles are a well known reputable company and are in my opinion likely to rectify the situation but like you I would be seriously concerned until you get a it sorted satisfactorily. Good Luck and keep us posted.

Hi CREPELLO I have tried this previously with a Shimano 105 and as I recall the chain would only come off the inner cog by taking it onto the outer and then dropping back down to the middle ring. Perhaps some playing around with the derailleur height may have overcome that.
Could be different with the Campag and from what I have seen from other derailleur they all seem to have enough swing to travel over the three rings. The deep inner chain guide is the only thing that's different. Some one more able than me could probably braze on an extension.
Nothing to lose by trying a double and it's not as if I have to have racing swift shifting.
Interestingly the new Shimano 105 triple would not shift down onto the inner ring when in use on the road, ok on the stand. The derailleur was right in and touching the frame in some part , moving the derailleur down slightly and it changed perfectly under road use.

Searching in my spares box I have 2 versions od the Veloce double, 1 Shimano FD 4500? double and 1 LX triple .
A rough measurement of the cranked arm cable fixing to pivot and pivot to pivot with the bit that actually moves side to side puts them approx the same with maybe the cable arm being slightly shorter. The thumb test on the arm to operate put the Campag Veloce as about the same, the Shimano double was bordering on the impossible to press but the LX triple was considerably easier, the wrong frame clamp size tho' at only 28.6mm.
As I really don't want to ruin my levers I will look for a suitable Campag.
Thanks everyone for you input, it's good to know there are others around who are not afraid to have a go.

Thanks Gents for your replies and as you say CREPELLO it's worth giving it a go, drossall seems to be running the exact combination I have in mind as I believe Centour and Veloce are basically the same levers.
Pity about the concern about the overly strong spring though as I really don't want to ruin my levers so may look for a Campag front mech, old stock or used over the next month.

I would like to use a Shimano triple front derailleur with campagnolo levers.
The front lever rackets up in stages on the campag which presumably would give a chance to index on the middle and outer chainring but it then drops down in one movement from outer to middle and middle to inner, so some doubt here if it would index correctly.
If I can avoid the route of having to fit such an arrangement just to see if it works would be useful to say the least.
I have Centour 10 speed levers and a Shimano 105 triple front mech.
Campag triple front mechs are becoming a rare item so any help would be appreciated.

So I'm not alone in discovering that the more functions a Computer seems to have the really useful ones have been omitted. Car radios seem to have gone the same way.

What sad times we are living in with regard to all these jumped up petty officials with their petty rules. No wonder any real initiative is becoming rare. After saying that a well thought out venture should be able to tick all the boxes on their multi duplicated forms.
Time to get the local Church bring and buy raided.

Why not look into the issues mentioned before with a positive attitude and factor in the hire of a Motorhome, this will prevent a large capital outlay, and should give a replacement vehicle should it break down.
These are cyclists we are discussing and should not be easily poisoned with porridge and toast. Campsites to have full showering/ toilet facilities and have a suitable venue close by for evening meals. A suitable establishment can also be enrolled for the mid day meal.
Cost is a consideration but some people may wish to pay for the advantage of everything taken care of while they just get on with the cycling.
Do not underprice the offer so you have some safety net to fall back on and on any case you have the experience of one journey under your belt.
Unlikely to bring you a fortune but small acorns and all that!

I currently have a pair of Planet X overshoes, which I find are as good as any other neoprene ones I have had in the past.
For real rain and sleet conditions I have a pair of Eager canvas overshoes which are excellent and in the cold I really cannot say which is the best for warmth or lack of it. You would think neoprene would win hands down but have a feeling the canvas is better.

A 10 mile TT would basically consist of 5 miles out and 5 back which in theory should be equal to a straight 10 without any wind. in practice however the wind usually comes at you from the side and can hinder or help you in both directions. On a road you previously thought was straight a slight curve can cause the wind to assist or hinder you.
Anything close to a 30 minute time is good for an average cyclist and if young and strong you will soon be doing nearer 20 minutes but no shame if it takes some time to come in under 30.
Wheels with light tyres also help by a minute or two and clip on try bars are worth about the same. Being able to hold your concentration on the ride instead of thinking of other thinks and the wearing of a heart rate monitor to keep your heart rate at a level that you can ride without letting it drop or rise above so that you blow and have to stop pedalling to recover.
Sounds like sheer hell but actually something like a weekly Club 10 is fun and can be a good way to start the weekend.

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Having recently taken a major leap forward from screw on blocks to 10 speed Campag I also found a similar problem in one gear in the mid range. It turned out that I should have read the instructions for the cassette assembly as there are 3 different widths of spacers, 1 being 0.8 of a mm narrower than the others and should have been placed between the two largest cogs with one wide one placed between 6 and 7 cogs. Nothing is simple any more.
Edit- just seen a far more comprehensive explanation of 10 speed campag cassettes a few postings below this one.

I have recently fitted a 110mm Un55 and yes the left side alloy cup had the shoulder yet only last week I fitted a 107mm Un55 to another bike and this time the left side alloy cup did not have a shoulder. Both came from Chain Reaction on two separate orders. The 110 was boxed and the 107 unboxed. Both right side spindle projections are the same.
I had previously used Stronglight bb's with the plastic cups but have found that they would become undone on my fixie and also on the other bike the cranks would foul on the plastic cups and unscrew them. I do feel the Shimano bottom brackets are a bit heavy but I cannot afford to be stranded miles from home.
I have the Spa cycles XD2 cranks because I found it better to cycle with shorter cranks and there is very little choice available in other makes and Stronglight chainrings and ss bolts are excellent products.

Cannot praise Spa Cycles enough as they provide components etc. for the down to earth cyclist. I would be lost without their Stronglight and Carradice range to name but a few and their own cranks range from 160mm size up is excellent value.
I also have a set of superb wheels built by them but bought from the ctc site.
Delivery period varies from good to excellent, being mean I try to spend over £50 for free delivery and to receive items on 24 hour delivery without paying for it is as good as it gets.

Having bought 5 complete used bikes and 1 mtb frame on Ebay I would start your search there. just type in 531 and plenty of quality bikes at your price range mainly Raleigh will appear, if you then trawl through the Raleigh on line information for that model you will start to get a feel for what is available.
There is also a 501 Reynolds tube Raleigh that I know from experience is a quality bike. Choosing such a bike from the 80,s era will give you a bike that will feel good to ride. The LFGSS site could also be a good place for you to look and being in London may enlighten you to what may be local to you.
I would suggest that you look at the 57cm size range but this all depends on you leg length etc.
Good luck and enjoy your search.