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by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 1:21pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

roubaixtuesday wrote:I have no idea what "numbers" you refer to.


Number of deaths per year in the UK from flu (17,000)
Number of deaths per year from coronavirus (35 so far)

Italy: Number of deaths per year from flu (16,000)
Italy: Number of deaths per year from coronavirus (1800 so far)
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 12:09pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

Here's the full link for the study I linked to above: https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext (sorry, copy and paste as link doesn't seem to appear properly) And the highlights: In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occur...
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 12:00pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

For those here still downplaying the impact and comparing to seasonal flu: Comparing doesn't mean downplaying but in comparing the two it's still hard to see where flu ends and coronavirus begins - the numbers are still comparable. BTW, I'm not one who is suggesting that flu and CV are the same thi...
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 11:03am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

We have no natural immunity to Coroanvirus, Well we obviously do: most people (including 99.9% of children) are going to breeze through this virus. Surviving it doesn't mean you were immune! Say a bit more as immunity to me means not going down with it but technically you may well be right. Anyone ...
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 9:54am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

We have no natural immunity to Coroanvirus, Well we obviously do: most people (ncluding 99.9% of children) are going to breeze through this virus. As someone else has posted 400 people died in Italy yesterday Which isn't news - 1500 people will die in the UK today. The question is, would any of tho...
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 9:21am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

From my understanding COVID 19/Coronavirus isn't Flu,there's no immunity,there's no vaccine and we're 18months from having one available,this strain is new and unknown before the . I Googled "What is the difference between flu and the coronavirus?". I got some pretty strange answers but i...
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 1:07am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Lockdown for over seventies?
Replies: 181
Views: 4928

Re: Lockdown for over seventies?

I shall ride - on my own - and meet no-one. If I were to be confined to home, with no blasting of fresh air and no metabolism stimulating exercise my health will deteriorate. That's not just myself, I think it's true of any active person. +1 And for the elderly it's even more important. And just to...
by horizon
16 Mar 2020, 12:43am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

So, here's the scary stuff: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/uk-coronavirus-crisis-to-last-until-spring-2021-and-could-see-79m-hospitalised They're reckoning on .5m deaths in the UK but don't forget that over that number of people will die anyway over the next year. The question is, how...
by horizon
15 Mar 2020, 6:37pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

Just to add to the gloom, it is estimated that about 1,500 people have died today in the UK alone (not all of them from the coronavirus). A lot more will die of various causes in the near future if Coronavirus swamps the NHS with very sick people who'll need to be put on ventilators in ICU's and wh...
by horizon
15 Mar 2020, 6:01pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

Just to add to the gloom, it is estimated that about 1,500 people have died today in the UK alone (not all of them from the coronavirus).
by horizon
15 Mar 2020, 5:58pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

An old GP once told me to avoid taking any medication to bring a mild or moderate fever down, because this interferes with the immune system which is inducing a high body temperature to literally boil the pathogen to destruction. Could you expand a bit more on your views on this as there hasn't bee...
by horizon
15 Mar 2020, 2:28am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

A chink of light in the darkness at last (I've been saying it for years):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -infection
by horizon
13 Mar 2020, 7:07pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

Vorpal wrote:[quo

Norway has taken scientifically based actions against the spread of the virus,



I would very like to be proven wrong, but I think it is mistake for the UK to keep schools open, and to continue to allow large gatherings


This was based apparently on scientific evidence.
by horizon
13 Mar 2020, 5:00pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

This from https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-compare-influenza/: Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19. However, the yearly deaths vary widely from a high of 28,330 in 2014/15 to a low of 1,692 in 201...
by horizon
13 Mar 2020, 1:29pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?
Replies: 2653
Views: 50200

Re: Coronavirus (aka COVID-19) - just how serious?

I've been self-isolating (from the forum :D) for a few days to avoid anyone getting infected by my rather virulent views. Fortunately I've been able to get home deliveries of various news and opinions via the internet so it hasn't been all bad :wink: . Anyway, time to take off the mask for a moment....