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by Sweep
13 Sep 2012, 12:56pm
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?
Replies: 39
Views: 6399

Re: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?

bretonbikes wrote:[
Just to cheer you up further, 10 weeks in full sunlight has most polyester tent fabrics well on the way to falling apart anyway - most after 20 weeks you can just pull apart like paper:-)


gee bretonbikes - thanks again. :(

I was kinda thinking of heading to the Med in it sometimes - guess that shortens its life still further. :( I guess the only way round this is to keep moving/live-camp by night so that it's never left in camp during the day.

On the weight/space thing, the Spirit 200+ is plenty big enough and packs small but I would have no problem at all if it gained durability by it being a bit heavier. Might also make it cheaper of course - lightweight bike stuff often carries a premium. No great point me saving a tiny bit of weight - have been known to set off with three separate stoves and three separate power sources!
by Sweep
13 Sep 2012, 11:17am
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?
Replies: 39
Views: 6399

Re: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?

Well not disputing your expertise bretonbikes but that sure isn't an encouraging reply :(

I must say that the poles (including the replacement - same spec of course) don't look strong at all to me. I'm no fan of super-lightweight stuff on bikes (especially touring) so does anyone know of suppliers of stronger sections (8.5mm diameter of course) so that I can gradually rebuild the tent as it breaks on a 10-week cycle?
by Sweep
10 Sep 2012, 8:51am
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?
Replies: 39
Views: 6399

Re: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?

Thanks for that river traveller.

It sounds encouraging, though at the same time it seems to (non engineer) me that they haven't specced the thing properly.

There isn't that much travel in the tensioning bands so one would assume that they should have been designed so that they can't be over-tensioned.. It also sounds as if the poles haven't exactly been over-engineered. I know some have wondered if Vango has changed the pole specs over the years.

I will take care from now on to not put much tension on the tensioning bands.

Two free pole sections have arrived from Vango (55cm x 8.5mm) and I'll try to report back on this thread if there's any significant update.
by Sweep
7 Sep 2012, 5:46pm
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Camping Stove Gas availability in Spain
Replies: 11
Views: 8541

Re: Camping Stove Gas availability in Spain

Update.

Used that adaptor over the weekend - worked like a dream - every pannier should have one it seems to me unless they are just running a Trangia or something.

thanks again
by Sweep
7 Sep 2012, 5:44pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: National Cycle Route 6
Replies: 27
Views: 20515

Re: National Cycle Route 6

Thanks for the replies chaps - they make a lot of sense.

Cycled the NCN route 1 from Gravesend off towards Rochester the other day fully loaded - 3 barriers from memory along the Shorne Marshes bit - had to remove panniers at the first one, but not the other two - seems they don't even have a spec, though they looked identical.

Heading into Faversham from the east on the same trip coming back I encountered a barrier I couldn't even get an unloaded bike through. I suppose I could have missed a turn - signage not what it could have been - luckily I had a GPS and could get along the edge of a field.
by Sweep
7 Sep 2012, 7:37am
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?
Replies: 39
Views: 6399

Re: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?

Thanks for that site Penfold - looks very interesting.

Still interested in any folks' views/advice/erecting and care tips on the particular tent.
by Sweep
6 Sep 2012, 10:16am
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?
Replies: 39
Views: 6399

Vango Spirit 200 + (plus) pole breakage?

I bought one of these tents fairly recently - very pleased with ease of putting it up/down and general design, but a problem.

Apart from a bit of test use in my sheltered garden, it's only been erected on camp for a total of 5 or 6 days, a total of 3 pitchings, - always well sheltered in ideal conditions.

But a pole has just broken (the "orange-coded" one) for what I can see as no good reason - I am pretty sure I ensured that the pole sections were always properly slotted together and this impression is supported by the nature of the metal shape which sheared off.

I called Vango - they gave me what I now believe is their standard initial response (I didn't know this when I bought it) about poles not being covered by any guarantee (!!) but faced with my outrage at a breakage after such light use they have said that they will send me a spare bit of pole (not a full new one) to fix it.

So far so good but I'm concerned that this may not be a "freak" and that I may have future breakages when I'm not so close to home.

I'm no engineer but I do also wonder about the wisdom of the "gothic arch" pattern to the poles which means that they are not a perfect curve.

Anyone else got this tent/got any feedback/advice?

PS - I don't usually use the extra inside tensioning cord but I asked about this when I got the tent - Vango told me that they were optional/only for use in windy conditions. And it's never been windy.
by Sweep
27 Aug 2012, 3:40pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: National Cycle Route 6
Replies: 27
Views: 20515

National Cycle Route 6

NCN6.

Anyone ridden it from London to the NW?

How complete is it?

What would it be like to ride fully loaded with panniers?

I know I could look on the Sustrans site, but I'm always a bit wary of their info on how complete something is - sometimes some bits are I know somewhat provisional.

Also, knowing their somewhat barmy route to Brighton from London (I'm referring to the bit near London and the Downs) I'm particularly interested in the loaded implications.

Anyone ridden it?
by Sweep
27 Aug 2012, 3:37pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Help with Italy
Replies: 20
Views: 8482

Re: Help with Italy

Well I had word back from someone who has lived in Italy - he said that where he lived in the south the local bike lanes (often in such a poor state to be really not terribly useful) were ignored with impunity, but that when he went on a holiday to the north he was advised to use them as some cyclists actually had been fined.

So nicarao, please PM me your bank details :)

Today a press release winged in from the Cagliari cycle campaign and much to my alarm says this:

<In Italian but google translate will help you>

I don't know about the views of other folk on here, but I diasgree with several aspects of this. And they are supposed to be defending the interests of responsible cyclists.

This group is I think affiliated to FIAB, the national cycle campaign group.

<HERE IT IS>

COMUNICATO STAMPA

Nessuna divergenza e tante opportunità tra ciclisti e automobilisti.

L'associazione Città Ciclabile Onlus desidera esprimere le proprie considerazioni su alcuni recenti episodi di diverbio tra ciclisti e automobilisti, riportati con molta evidenza sulle cronache cittadine e seguiti da numerosissimi commenti sui giornali e social network. Siamo molto grati ai cittadini che esprimono le proprie opinioni su questo tema, ma proprio tra queste abbiamo notato che talvolta emerge l'idea sbagliata di un presunto conflitto generalizzato tra ciclisti e automobilisti, di contese sugli spazi stradali e interessi contrastanti, che non esistono e non hanno motivo di esistere.

Non esistono divergenze e non potrebbero esistere semplicemente perché la stragrande maggioranza dei cittadini che utilizzano la bicicletta sono anche automobilisti. Sono per esempio automobilisti anche la maggioranza dei nostri 260 iscritti e degli oltre 1500 cittadini che si tengono in contatto con la nostra associazione. Come potrebbe dunque esserci interessi divergenti?

Certamente questi diverbi tra ciclisti e automobilisti possono apparire una novità per la nostra città, dove nell'ultimo anno è cresciuto notevolmente l'uso della bicicletta. Ma se facciamo un confronto tra il numero degli episodi analoghi che avvengono tra automobilisti e automobilisti, in cui siamo spesso coinvolti, ci rendiamo conto che nell'uso della bicicletta questi episodi sono veramente sporadici.

Una città ciclabile è una città più libera e pulita per tutti, dove i cittadini hanno la possibilità di scegliere di volta in volta il mezzo di trasporto più adatto alla circostanza, il più pratico, il più economico e veloce. Quando si sceglie di utilizzare la bicicletta o i mezzi pubblici per i piccoli spostamenti, si evita di alimentare il traffico più inutile e caotico. Se questa libera scelta viene fatta da un numero notevole di cittadini, le strade e i parcheggi restano più liberi per i mezzi pubblici, per i mezzi commerciali e per tutte le situazioni in cui l'auto privata effettivamente è necessaria per lavoro o per esigenze personali.

Pensiamo per esempio alla riapertura delle scuole, tra pochi giorni. Il traffico automobilistico diventerà più intenso e caotico per il viavai e le soste dei genitori che accompagneranno i figli a scuola. E' un traffico che si potrebbe ridurre notevolmente se i ragazzi potessero usare la bicicletta autonomamente e in sicurezza. Genitori e figli sarebbero più liberi e indipendenti, meno vincolati e stressati. Le strade sarebbero più libere, le famiglie spenderebbero molto meno.

Tutti possiamo essere dunque ciclisti, automobilisti e utilizzatori dei mezzi pubblici.

In questo periodo viviamo a Cagliari e hinterland una piccola trasformazione della circolazione stradale, con la realizzazione dei primi percorsi ciclabili che evidentemente, sappiamo tutti, non sono ancora completi e sicuri sotto diversi punti di vista. In particolare, i pericoli e le distrazioni possono essere accentuati nelle intersezioni stradali e negli attraversamenti pedonali, proprio per mancanza di abitudine ai nuovi percorsi ciclabili. Si tratta però di situazioni transitorie che potranno solamente migliorare e di primi passi importanti, che potranno portarci a soluzioni sempre più comode e sicure per la "mobilità leggera".

Proprio per questo, l’Associazione Città Ciclabile si rivolge ai cittadini che utilizzano la bicicletta invitandoli sempre al massimo rispetto del Codice della Strada. Massima prudenza e attenzione possibile sono necessari per il pericolo di improvvise invasioni dei percorsi ciclabili da parte di pedoni o passeggeri che scendono dalle auto in sosta. Nei nuovi percorsi ciclabili la velocità deve essere sempre moderata. Dove presenti, i ciclisti sono obbligati dal codice della strada ad utilizzare i percorsi ciclabili. Nelle strade prive di percorsi ciclabili , i ciclisti devono mantenere la destra e permettere il sorpasso ai mezzi più veloci che seguono. Se non vi è spazio sufficiente per il sorpasso è buona regola per i ciclisti fermarsi saltuariamente e consentire il deflusso dei veicoli che seguono. Gli iscritti all'Associazione Città Ciclabile sono sempre coperti da assicurazione RC nell'uso della bicicletta.

La nostra Associazione si rivolge inoltre ai cittadini che finora non hanno potuto scoprire i diversi vantaggi che si possono ottenere utilizzando la bicicletta al posto dell'auto privata nei propri piccoli spostamenti. Città Ciclabile Onlus è un'associazione di volontariato che offre gratuitamente informazioni, supporto e formazione, sulla mobilità ciclabile a enti pubblici, aziende, scuole e singoli cittadini. I singoli cittadini e i ragazzi possono poi trovare molto comodo e divertente partecipare senza alcun impegno alle nostre pedalate di gruppo per acquisire dimestichezza e scambiare informazioni utili sull'uso della bicicletta, sulle riparazioni, sul cicloturismo e tanto altro ancora.

Incoraggiamo pertanto tutti i cittadini ad esprimere ancora di più le proprie opinioni sul tema della mobilità ciclabile, per analizzare insieme le difficoltà e le opportunità, discuterne e cercare insieme le soluzioni migliori.


Città Ciclabile Onlus - Virgilio Scanu - Presidente

http://www.cagliariciclabile.it - http://www.fiab-onlus.it


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by Sweep
24 Aug 2012, 6:53pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Help with Italy
Replies: 20
Views: 8482

Re: Help with Italy

nirakaro

I may get back to you for that refund.

Most of my Italy cycling has been in Sardinia, and in town in Cagliari.

Cycles lanes were almost non existent until recently (though there are some on the coast road going east and those are apparently ignored with immunity by the mamils) but Cagliari has a new young mayor (in Italian government terms if you are under 50 you are young/too young) and cycle lanes have started to appear - hence my interest. If the law/drivers start getting awkward I may have to avoid my usual handy routes.

I have asked a member of a local cycling group about the issue and will post back on here if I hear anything.

I also cycle in bus lanes but have been told that you aren't supposed to. Apparently when the head of the local cycling group in Cagliari raised the possibility of bikes being formally allowed to use them the city's head of buses said that his drivers would go on strike if this was allowed!

I've never had any problems though.

Yes, on the law, Italy as I understand it has more laws than pretty much anywhere else on the planet, but not much in the way of "rule of law". An uncertain position to say the least.

Two plusTen - the financial police are the Guardia di Finanza, popularly known as the Fiamme Gialle (yellow flames) due to their nifty isignia.

Lots of police forces -- too many to name.
by Sweep
24 Aug 2012, 1:06pm
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Camping Stove Gas availability in Spain
Replies: 11
Views: 8541

Re: Camping Stove Gas availability in Spain

Thanks everyone as well.

I ordered one from Amazon.

Apart from the convenience/flexibility, it should pay for itself after a while.
by Sweep
24 Aug 2012, 8:21am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Removing a Pitlock skewer. Without the key.
Replies: 47
Views: 18459

Re: Removing a Pitlock skewer. Without the key.

Sorry - can't help you with your problem.

I think the ones I have must be the "old" design - haven't used them since I lost one of the keys on a ride and am scared to use them with only a single key remaining. I need to get another one.

I'm assuming, maybe naively, that for most purposes the old design is fine.
by Sweep
23 Aug 2012, 4:52pm
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Camping Stove Gas availability in Spain
Replies: 11
Views: 8541

Re: Camping Stove Gas availability in Spain

Question on that adaptor.

Sorry if it seems as if I'm being daft/pedantic.

Do I take it that you can puncture the old/fashioned puncture type blue cartridges (ie not clip-on blue) and then after having finished using the screw on stove, take the stove off, leaving the punctured bottle safely capped/made safe by a valve in the adaptor?.

If so, great way of using the very generally available/cheap puncture cartridges.

On my last bike camping trip I was re-using gear fro m my car campijg days and rather nervously had to carry around a puncture catridge still attached to its stove - no way of removing it of course.

I already have a screw-on stove head.

As I said, be kind with me.
by Sweep
23 Aug 2012, 4:38pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Help with Italy
Replies: 20
Views: 8482

Re: Help with Italy

Wonderful thread which I'll be watching.

Bemused by the person who didn't like Rome - maybe from a cycling perspective?

My cycling experience in Italy is from Sardinia (which i take it you are not headed for) - on the basis of extensive experience there I'd second the reports (counter-inuitive I know) that the drivers are generally excellent with cyclists - far better than Brits. <With pedestrians they are all-too-often a disgrace though>

Been to Pisa - struck me as a small not especially interesting town - the tower looks exactly like it does in the pics and you'll have seen so many of these in the past you slightly wonder why you bothered - I wouldn't go out of my way to pedal to it..

My understanding is that, by law (mind you the law is a curious beast in Italy) you have to wear a reflective jacket outside towns from dusk to dawn - also in tunnels. Best to comply as doubtless drivers, like drivers anywhere, will exploit anything you have done wrong.

It's also my understanding that in Italy you risk a fine of between €24-92 if you don't use a bike lane when this is provided.

Beyond terrible in my view - any experienced cyclist surely knows that cycle lanes SHOULD be avoided at least in some instances - never been a problem for me in the past as cycling provision in the past was below minimal, but may become more of a problem.

Details if you read Italian/can translate via google

http://www.codicedellastrada.net/index. ... ta_cic.htm
by Sweep
23 Aug 2012, 4:05pm
Forum: Cycle Camping sub-forum
Topic: Washing a down bag?
Replies: 32
Views: 10147

Re: Washing a down bag?

Well I got the Nikwax Downwash (thanks for the tip) for £5 from Decathlon.

Despite indio32's double exhortion to "just pay up" <I'm noy saying the professional services are a rip-off and that the cost doesn't reflect their time, effort and expertise, but it is a lot of dosh for a clean> I've decided to go down the bath by hand route and just air dry it outside and in (my house gets rather warm on the top floor) - dragging it to the launderette, although it is only 5 mins walk is probably not on as I guess it would weigh a ton and I'm wary of damaging it when wet. I'll lay it flat until a fair amount of the water has gone.

Another question though.

The Nikwax instructions for hand washing are fairly clear but it seems to say that their product and this system is only for 1 or 2 season bags and that 3-4 season bags should be professionally cleaned. Although the bag is a good one (to me - it cost about £70 in a sale almost 20 years ago - hasn't been used that much) it doesn't seem to make economic sense to do this - surely they are just being over-cautious/covering themselves in some way?

Oh, I also bought a silk liner in Decathlon :) - Fair point to the bod above who suggested it - I should have been using a liner from the beginning.