Fruit and veg not for fuelling axel - note the thread title. Veg is good for all sorts of reasons.axel_knutt wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 4:41pmPasta is more than four times the calorific value of potatoes, and the waste space on spaghetti is lower than potatoes, taking them as roughly spherical. The amount of food you need to fuel a ride is metered by the energy it contains, and the burden associated with carrying it related to the size & weight, so the relevant metric for measuring the efficiency in transporting it are the calorific values by weight and volume. Fruit & veg just aren't an efficient way of fuelling, it's like building a BEV using lead acid cells instead of lithium.Sweep wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 4:01pmWhat about potatoes?axel_knutt wrote: ↑26 Oct 2024, 12:46pm Unlike when I'm at home, I don't usually bother with fruit & veg on tour, it just doesn't contain enough calories to justify the space and weight it occupies. Pasta, couscous, cheese etc contain 18-20 times the calories of a courgette for example, per unit weight.
Pasta always strikes me as particularly inefficient - takes up a lot of room (all those damn holes in many varieties) and needs a fair amount of water to be boiled up and hence a pan of a fair size. Potatoes and veg can be cooked with very little water.
Er, not entirely reasonable to compare the energy benefits per volume of courgettes with your chosen nosh![]()
Of course if a short ride or you can just fuel and damn the consequences/sort yourself afterwards you could just ride on a dripfeed of syrup.
Spaghetti, though no holes, is a particular pig to cook in my opinion. I do know that I'd have real problems cooking it in a Trangia 27 pan. And wouldn't dare try in Italy where I'd be mocked/deported for not using a bucket of water and a fistful of salt.
I also have memories of a campsite in the Outer Hebrides where the pasta took forever to cook and only speeded up when I managed to arrange my body as a windbreak.