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661-Pete wrote:

windmiller wrote:So anway, In the film (can't remember which one} the time traveller goes back in time many times to try and prevent the death of his girl friend, all to no avail

I thought that was Superman. And IIRC, he does manage to bring Lois back to life. Something about zipping into orbit around the Earth, faster than light so that time flows backwards.

Or maybe I've got the wrong film...

kwackers wrote:

landsurfer wrote:

Freddie wrote:really, must we play the round the houses game? anyway, my point was clear, the more intelligent (the word is in the dictionary) women will be/are the ones to stop reproducing, and they would have been the ones more likely to have produced children who may be able to get us out of any imminent mess regarding the planet. Hence, the movement to stop reproducing is an own goal.

+1

So the answer to overpopulation is more people?
Because they'll figure out how to fix water tables, remove pollution, prevent crashing eco systems, prevent over-consumption, invent low energy transport systems, fix global warming and the endless list of other stuff.
There's more than enough intelligent people having intelligent babies already without needing more.

I rather think that most children will simply grow up into even more consumers whining endlessly because someone told them they can't have inefficient light bulbs or vacuum cleaners or as much meat as they can stick in their traps in one sitting.
There's been no new ideas on fixing what's wrong for decades - perhaps there simply isn't scientific fix that allows us both the breed like bacteria on a petri dish and consume at an ever increasing rate whilst simultaneously allowing us to fix what's wrong.

However low population is certainly a potential fix although unfortunately most likely brought about by fighting over what little remains.
Look how the far right rises as times harden, this is a fundamental property of human behaviour.
As climate change bites and things run out expect more of the same, the willy waving of nationalism will become the war cry of nations determined to get the last dodo before they're all gone.

So far there's no evidence our civilisation will be any better than those that went before it and with so many to support and so much technology required to support it when it finally goes it's going to be one hell of a bang.

The general scientific consensus is that the 1.5 degree global temperature rise limit is next to impossible to achieve, we'd have to start now and really go for it.
Two degrees is almost impossible, again we'd have to start now and be fairly serious.
Three or four degrees is most likely attainable but the models suggest this could push us over the tipping point (the point at which we might be able to fix it), which will see unstoppable sea level rises along with mass climate migration and significantly less land mass for everyone to live in.

Now we could hope that one of the babies born today will fix this - but unfortunately they'll still be teens by the time it's too late so I'm not sure how that'll work...

Cunobelin wrote:

Whippet wrote:Bovington tank museum, Portsmouth Historic shipyards - especially Victory and Warrior, Pitt Rivers in Oxford.

If in Portsmouth, try the Royal Armories at Fort Nelson.... especially if they are firing