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Carlton green wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 9:55am

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 9:22am

pete75 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 5:13am Yeah but they're not the sort by buying electric cars. If they did they'd get something from a prestige brand, not a Tesla.

You might be surprised - there is growing evidence that that green tag on the reg plate is now a prestige symbol on it's own, irrespective of which car it's attached to.

Yes, it’s form of - government backed - virtue signalling.

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 9:05am

pete75 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 5:09am

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 9:01pm

I don't agree with the distinctions at all. I do agree with the implication that sanctions should be asked via the justice system.

You don't think there's a distinction between taking other's money and stopping other's taking your own? Bizarre.

Tax isn't "other people taking your money" it's the price we pay to live in society.

If you aren't paying your fair share, which should increase as your ability to pay increases, then you are stealing the benefits of society - because you aren't paying for them.

Cowsham wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 5:03am Gusts around 80 MPH ATM but there's winds battering poor owl galway at over 120 MPH ! According to my ventusky app. We've lost some slates off the roof already.

djnotts wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 9:50pm

pete75 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 8:49pm Many of the types of people who buy electric cars are likely to detest Musk's views and pronoucements. .........

But I'm not convinced that that will affect their consumer choices, if the product and the price are "right".
Look at the number of upper middle classes who profess to worry about "the environment" yet have 2 SUVs and insist their 17 y.o.'s need a car to go sixth form.

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 9:01pm

pete75 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 6:40pm

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 5:54pm

Why benefit fraudsters? Why not all fraudsters?

Most fraudsters, con men, teaming an dlading merchants, OAP rip off builders etc are dealt with through the criminal justice system.
If you're referiing to income tax fraudsters, they're totally diffeent to benefit fraudsters. Benefit fraud involves you taking others peoples money, income tax fraud involves stopping the state taking away your own money.

I don't agree with the distinctions at all. I do agree with the implication that sanctions should be asked via the justice system.

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 5:54pm

pete75 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 5:50pm

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 12:15pm Not sure what any of that has to do with singling out benefits recipients for a special punishment.

They're singling out benefit fraudsters, not benefit recipients. The two are not the same.

Why benefit fraudsters? Why not all fraudsters?

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 5:54pm

pete75 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 5:50pm

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 12:15pm Not sure what any of that has to do with singling out benefits recipients for a special punishment.

They're singling out benefit fraudsters, not benefit recipients. The two are not the same.

No they're not - they suggested benefit recipients shouldn't be allowed to drive.
And that disabled people shouldn't be allowed to drive
And that OAPs shouldn't be allowed to drive

Because apparently noone in any of those categories offers anything to society at all.

roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 12:15pm Not sure what any of that has to do with singling out benefits recipients for a special punishment.

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 6:05pm

pete75 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 3:27pm Beats me how anyone on benefits can afford to run a car.

Have you tried *not* running a car?
For most people that means public transport, which means many jobs aren't accessible, and is more expensive than running a car in many ways.

Yes - *we* all know that a bike is seriously overpowered as a transport option... but the vast majority don't see it that way.

djnotts wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 9:34am Maybe more appropriate in "What has made you laugh..."

Increase in unlicensed drivers predicted :

"A proposed anti-fraud law that would see benefit cheats banned from driving for two years as part of attempts to bring down the welfare bill, the Daily Telegraph reports. It says the new rules would apply to anyone who owes more than £1,000 in wrongly claimed payments and ignores repeated requests to repay it, ......"

cycle tramp wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 6:17pm

pete75 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 10:58am

cycle tramp wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025, 10:58pm

I don't think it is. Ultimately this is the result of the poisonous rhetoric espoused by tHe far right... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vddrjjgr0o.amp
..and quite rightly it has appalled people. People have rejected societies which are based on control and brutality in the past and will do so again. Humanity is a social animal - its imbedded in our genetics from the time that we were primates, and we acknowledge that we are stronger and better protected when we are part of something larger than ourselves. Which is society - and it falls to each of us to work towards building that society and making a choice between fear and hate or education and friendship.

We're discussing Reform's election chances and there's no doubt it'sa party of the right but it's a long way to the left of the chap in the article you link to. Your post is as far fetched and utterly wrong as the journalists who called Mr Corbyn a Stalinist.

Well, here's Reform Uk's website, and everyone can read it and make their own minds up https://www.reformparty.uk/

Apparently everything is broken and its all because we've lost control of our laws, our financial institutions.. oh, and we've lost our culture (whatever that is - fox hunting? Being able to smoke in a pub? Finding 'carry on films' funny?)

Is it a long way to the left of the thug which I referenced? I doubt if farage would be stooooopid enough to own any nazi memorabilia, nor would I expect him to actually attack anyone....
..however in reading between the lines, it's the same message that Adolf Hilter was spewing. That our great nation had been brought to its knees by indifferent previous governments of varying colours, laws which the UK didn't make, outside influences of 'woke mentality', and a lack of control over finances and borders...
....and apparently only Farage can save us..
Not an investment in new technology, or plain simple hard work, or perhaps building tidal pools for energy generation..
Just Farage..
..strangely there is nothing very much in their policy, and there's nothing about the current environmental problems, nor foreign policy...
At least during the last election, they were candid about fracking and how it was going to make us all very rich and well off...
The biggest issue I have with Reform is that they can appear reasonable. Scratch beneath the surface, and you find yourself asking, what's wrong with living in a culturally diverse community, if someone feels like they should be part of a LGBQ group, then why is it any of my business? And what's wrong with taking other people's feelings into consideration?
The very fact that someone belongs to a LGBQ group, or that low traffic neighbourhoods exist, or that people do take other things, such as the environment into consideration, and this annoys and alarms people like Anderson, should be worrying to the rest of us.

Hidden in the Reform's website, is the sentence 'to bring back British culture' but what is that? Is that gay bashing? Is that allowing racist, homophobic or sexist jokes back on the t.v is it endless re-runs of Alf Garnet/ Sickness & in health.. will we be able to pat women's bottoms without fear of being charged with sexual assault, who knows.. but Farage doesn't have a clue.... because all he's looking for is your vote to legitimise his own fearful view point...

Cowsham wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 1:16pm

pete75 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 10:47am

Except there's a bit of misinformation in there too
Wood fires can reach 1600°C -- even a bonfire can reach 1100°C

https://www.target-fire.co.uk/resource- ... %20visible.