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PAB855 wrote:Just a passing thought, a rider on a single speed bike with a full long flap carradice bag supported on that tricky bag rack would be a super fit youth hosteller I would imagine. Not my idea of an enjoyable holiday, but each to his own!

That brought back memories and made me smile. Here's a photo, very poor quality because it was taken with a Box Brownie, outside the YHA in Stratford-upon-Avon, when I was fourteen years old, I almost seventy four now. Notice the fixed gear, the saddle bag must have been left at the hostel while we went for a canoe ride on the river.



Just a little point to watch out for if you go down the route of separate cable guides etc. The double cable guides above the bottom bracket, fixed to the down tube, needs to be right at the bottom and sometimes the grease nipple gets in the way causing the front cable to foul on the seat tube and the rear cable to run further away from the chain stay than looks good. If you're not too bothered about being period correct, in fact the frame, when new, would only probably have had five gears, I would put the guides under the BB and fit the chainstay cable stop upside down.

Here's what mine looks like...



Cheers...

Hi blinkered,
Is grey the only possibility? What colour is the bike? Are you looking for NOS Bluemels? If you are refurbishing old steel the mudguards are usually the starting point for me. Every other part of my vintage builds are obtainable in many colours e.g. saddle, bar tape, frame paint, decals, except saddlebags. I have managed to buy NOS Bluemels in metallic blue, metallic green, metallic purple and metallic gold during the past year, all from ebay. I've got purple bar tape and a white/purple saddle bag as well just waiting for a frame. They are available out there but the asking price may give you a bit of a shock.
Cheers...

Sorry Gerry but that link just takes me to the cyclinguk web site... Alex

Thanks gerrymcm but nothing found on that site.
Cheers... Alex

Thanks for the info, Paulatic. I didn't know that.
Cheers... Alex

Does anyone know if, (or how,) I can access a wanted advert which I posted last December. It was for a quality frame and there were a few offers and some interest in what I had eventually bought. Now the frame is finished, and built up, I was going to update the post to show those who were interested, how the project turned out but I can't find the original post.
Hope you can help... Thanks... Alex

Hi fastpedaller,
That looks a very useful bag of parts. If you want to sell them let me know what you want for them and any other bits and related pieces you don't want to keep, and send me a PM about payment.
Just off to bed now as I Had a very late night last night.
cheers... Alex

Hi Brucey,
These chainrings are just over 2mm (0.085") where recessed and I thought they looked a bit thin.
Cheers... Alex

Hi andrew_s,
These Velo Orange bolts are the ones we are discussing here. I don't think you could have read the first post thoroughly and looked at the ebay link. The point is that these bolts, for some reason, don't seem to fit the chainrings that they're sold for. Thanks for the freshtripe info. If they're only £15 on that site it's a good saving.

Thank you JohnW, that's a really kind offer. I spend my time, (and a lot of my money... but don't tell the wife), on restoring 1950s/1960s classic bikes. Somewhere on this forum you may find most of my work but these bolts are for my Bates which is almost ready to show in September. Waiting for my attention though is a Holdsworth "Cyclone" and a Hill Special. All are stripped and repainted by myself and then built up with the best classic components I can get my wallet on. This is the Bates frame now.





This is how it was when I got it.



Sending you a PM.

Thanks fastpedaller,
Yes, I recall both sets of bolts being the same design but it's 57 years since I bought the original chainset so I couldn't be certain. I can understand the screw being truncated to allow for the allen key but when the nut allows only 2.5mm for both chainrings (if the nut goes the whole way through), what kind of chainrings are only 1.5mm (1/16th inch) thick?

fastpedaller wrote:I'm pretty sure the 'bolts made of cheese' for that application should be about 11mm long (ie the length of thread)
ETA the nut goes through the outer ring and spacer then almost through the inner ring IIRC, with the bolt head on the inner ring.

If that's the case then the sets of bolts I bought are wrongly described, they are much too short but they came in a sealed packet with the spacers so I wonder what their use really is. As they are hex drive though, the screw cannot go all the way in as it would prevent the allen key being inserted.

Hi fastpeddaler,
Thanks for the tip. I'll see what they have tomorrow. I'm always on the lookout for these bits and bobs so if you have any that you're willing to sell please let me know.
Cheers... Alex

Hi Brucey,
Thanks for the reply. The first problem with these bolts and spacers is I don't know how they should fit. Does the nut go through both the rings and the spacer thereby allowing a short screw to be used in which case the nut is too short? When I screw the nut and screw fully together, with the spacer between, only about 0.100" (2.5mm) remains for both the rings. The inner ring alone is 0.138" (4.5mm) thick and the outer ring, due to the recess is 0.080" (2mm) thick. Both my rings are new but the outer needed drilling to take the inner but I have an old one to copy off. As you can see the nut/bolt combination is about 4mm too short to fully drive the screw home and as the screw is just over 5mm long it would only hold on one thread. The inner ring has no recess and as it can only be used when bolted to an outer I presumed it was how it should be.
Thanks for the suggestion about the connector nuts. That would make life easier.