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bobzeller

Thanks for that.

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bobzeller

Could someone please tell me how I can get climb details ie metres of climbing, percentages etc. when plotting on Cycle.Travel. I normally use RWGPS which gives those details but I would like to compare what Cycle.Travel could do for me but I can't seem to find anything to do with climbs. Is that info given? How might I get it?

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bobzeller

If it is any help, Decathlon has the Garmin Edge Explore for sale at £199 both in-store and on line. It has been at that price for two or three weeks now.

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bobzeller

Thanks, good information to have.

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bobzeller

I am thinking about a short tour early next year from Paris south on the new EV3. Not sure how far but 350km to 500km most likely. I am also not sure which bike I would use. But possibly it could be my classic style touring bike with 23 tyres. If anyone has any info about this new (and as yet very much unfinished) route in this region of France and its surfaces, (or anything else) I would be most grateful to hear it.

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Bob

bobzeller

PM999 wrote:Hi Bob

I have the Edge Touring (not “plus”), but I assume that it is the same as your unit in respect of the GPS/navigation “engine”, and is only different regarding connectivity for peripherals.

Almost all my rides are created using cycle.travel and I usually download as a TCX Course with tick box for “announce turns 30m in advance” ticked. Defaults on the Garmin are set per RidewithGPS (especially the Recalculation option as “off”). Rides are normally loaded up to the SD card in the Garmin.

Starting off:
1. Where To?
2. Saved
3. Courses
4. [Select loaded TCX by name]
5. Ride
6. Navigate to Beginning? Yes (the tick).

After route calculation, off we go, with purple line to follow and turn by turn notifications working.

Detour off course. (Usually, there’s a pub involved …...)

Return to course – back on the purple line. Sometimes turn by turn notifications simply restart, sometimes they don’t. I don’t really have any firm theories why the Garmin behaves differently on occasion, but it may be to do with how far/how long (in time) off course.

If turn by turn has failed, these are the steps I take to bring it back.

1. Press red “Stop Navigation” button (and confirm stop by selecting the tick at the subsequent prompt).
2. Switch off then back on. (I’m not sure this step is necessary, but it’s belt and braces).
3. Go back to the same steps as “Starting off”, above, with the only difference being step 6. which is now: Navigate to Beginning? No (the cross).

As long as I am on the purple line, this seems to bring back turn by turn notifications for me (as well as all the other useful stuff when navigating, such as ETA, distance to destination etc which all go awry when off course).

I hope you get it working.

Paul

Paul

Bingo! I did exactly as directed by you and it worked. Many, many thanks for your patient, and detailed advice.

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bobzeller

I have now tried everything that's been suggested without luck. Bu in the process, I have learned that the default method for completing my route suggested by so many - simply following the purple line on the screen - works and works well. So many thanks for all the advice.

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Bob

bobzeller

Does anyone who uses cycle.travel have any experience of going off course, then returning the course and having their GPS (in my case a Garmin Edge Tour Plus) resuming tracking and providing turn-by-turn instructions? I normally plot a course with RideWithGPS but can't seem to get it to provide turn-by-turn instructions having gone off course and then returned to my course. Garmin said it could only be done if I loaded the nRWithGPS route into Base Camp and then into the Garmin. It didn't for me. RideWithGPS said they thought there shouldn't be a problem, but there is. Now I wonder if cycle.tour would make a difference. And if it is possible, do I load the route differently? Advice would be gratefully received.

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bobzeller

Re gloomyandy's question. Yes I did try reloading etc but it didn't work any better. However, I just spoke once again with Garmin and was told that if I were to plot my course on RideWithGPS then download it onto Base Camp and only then onto my GPS unit, it would work. I would get turn-by-turn instructions after getting back on course. The Help Desk man was absolutely convinced he was right. I'll have a go except I am dreading learning how to do that. Incidentally, he also suggested that I should split each day's ride (when I am on tour) into separate sections. He said if I normally travelled 50km or so each day, then I should
should plot two 25km routes. That way, if I did get off-course on the first section, I would at the very least be able to get the Garmin to direct me to the start of the next course from the point that I was at.

I'll do some experimenting over the weekend and, as well, ask RWGPS if they have a view about the Garmin advice. Meanwhile, has anyone had more luck using a cycle.tour plotted course. If Richard Fairhurst, who quite often follows these posts sees this, comments from him would be most appreciated.

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bobzeller

That begs the question, is there a better unit that will give turn-by-turn information when you have resumed your programmed course? Some posters have said the Garmin 1000 as a unit will. But for touring, there are battery limitations which means the navigation has to be turned of if it is to last for a full day. So for most tourists, the 1000 is of no value.

I might add that asking Garmin help desk people for advice as to Garmin models that might be more suited gets you nowhere. Ask three, as I did, and you'll get three different answers.

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Bob

bobzeller

Another question if I might especially as I have just seen Richard Fairhurst is on line. Would using another plotting service like cycle.tour make a difference?

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Bob

bobzeller

To answer the question, I have been loading routes as TCX because that is what people, and RWGPS, have recommended. But interestingly, I called Garmin's help line again last night and asked if indeed the units are designed to provide turn-by-turn instructions after one has returned to the course. The person I spoke with initially told me I had to reset the unit to recalculate my course. I told him I didn't want a new course to get to my destination but to simply restart using my programmed course once again. He thought this a strange request and checked with someone else who said that getting turn-by-turn instructions on the original course was not possible.

If that is the case, people at Garmin don't have any idea about what it is to be a touring cyclist. Often on tour we go from A to B without deviating. But equally as often, when we are on a route from A to B, we see or hear about something interesting down another road and would like to have a look. If we do so, then we seem to lose the turn-by-turn when resuming our route.

Does anyone know whether other units, either those made by Garmin or other companies can pick up the turn-by-turn. I have been reading about some of the latest GPS devices that use not only the usual GPS signals by some Russian ones as well. Would that make a difference?

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bobzeller

Well, I had a go using PM999's instructions after deliberately cycling a few kilometres of course. By manipulating the map for better views, as suggested by others, I was able to work my way back on course and then get to the finish. But the turn-by-turn instructions never resumed. I'll try it a couple of more times in case I didn't do something as instructed in PM999's instructions and get back with the results.

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bobzeller

Many thanks again. So many folk helping out. Typical of cyclists. I got started cycling in the seventies and have learned so much from others. This weekend's project will be to get off-course and then rectify things with the advice from PM999 and PH. I'll get back afterwards.

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Bob

bobzeller

Yes. Following the track will help me get back on-course. But I don't get turn-by-turn instructions nor beeps. No does it seem to be able to differentiate which direction I should be travelling in to get to the end of my course. Some posters have suggested turning the Garmin off and then starting it up again and ignoring the question of getting me to the start of the course. But that doesn't seem to work for me either. I wonder if someone who finds restarting to work could explain in detail the procedure.

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Bob

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