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by Bike-Rich
11 Feb 2014, 10:03pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Many thanks guys, found out a lot with the help of this thread.
Thanks for the pictures Conrad.

andrew_s wrote:
However, you are wrong to say that dynamos are rated at 3W.
3W is the case if you are powering a basic 3W (6V/0.5A) filament bulb, but if you power something else, such as an eWerk or an LED light (or even two filament bulbs), it's not difficult to get more power out.


That's a good point, but surely it is the battery that is allowing the extra power rather then a 'raw' dynamo?
by Bike-Rich
8 Feb 2014, 11:44am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Thanks again guys, some really useful advice in this post.

I never herd of the SatMap before reading on here, just looked at it and the main 'view' seems to be 'top-down' (which is not a problem) and map is very detailed.
I think the only thing putting me off getting this is no OSM (or free) map support.
by Bike-Rich
5 Feb 2014, 10:30pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Beekeeper & Stewart (and others who have posted) - many, many thanks, I now feel I understand dynamos and related equipment much more.

Thank you,
by Bike-Rich
5 Feb 2014, 5:14pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

BeeKeeper wrote:
No, the E-Werk only produces DC for the electronic devices you want to charge. On my setup I take two wires from each terminal of the dynohub. One pair go to the front light and the second is the power input to the E-Werk. To get the two wires from each terminal you can get special connectors which allow a second spade connector. Something like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/All-Trade-Direc ... +connector However, this is the wrong size for a dynohub but you should be able to get the idea from the picture. I just couldn't find a link to the correct size quickly.

For the feed to the rear light you should find there is a second pair of wires coming out of the front light. This is where you connect the wires for the rear light.

As above, the lights are not fed from the E-Werk. Modern LED lights will often have capacitors (not batteries) in them so they can continue to produce some light output when the bike is stopped, for example at a junction. The light output at the rear is probably going to be pretty much at full strength but on the front you will probably just get a couple of small LED "sidelights" running, you only get full beam when peddling.

In my experience the dynohub will not really produce enough power output to do much charging of electronic things when you have the lights on. This shouldn't be a problem unless you plan to do a lot of night cycling. In poor weather having a front light which has a "daylight running" setting is very useful as it will take less power, give you a bit of light at the front so people can see you and still have power left over for electronic charging.

I have a standard E-Werk together with the separate cache battery and find they work fine for me but the new USB-E-Werk is a good alternative but the battery in it is there simply to ensure your electronic devices get a smooth voltage which isn't interrupted when you stop at junctions - which can upset some devices, but not by any means all. The separate cache battery is much bigger and can actually charge devices when you are stopped.



I missed your post when I replied earlier BeeKeeper, thanks very much for your help - I understand much better now. I've made some notes.
1 more question though (sorry to keep going from one question straight into another), I can visualize the way you have split your cables, but what makes 50% of power go to lights and 50% to Energy? Presumably the laws of electric?

Point noted about not enough energy for charging and lights, if the worst comes to it i'll prioritize lights, if I just disconnect the lead going to e-werk this should give me 100% to lights?

FarOeuf wrote:
I think, if I may, that that question would be better on a new thread, as this one contains lots of useful and specific dynamo info? Anyhow, depends on your personal choice (and whether you obey the letter of the law). I've always just used a Cateye LED (AAA) light on the rear. Cheap, reliable and long lasting. I don't intend to switch the rear to a dynamo-powered light, the hassle isn't worth it in my opinion. If I ride in towns, then I'm using lights to be seen. If I ride out of town/off-road then I use lights to see the path in front of me.

cheers,


Good point :) Sorry again for all the question, I should have stayed on topic but I have some many things to ask :) And you guys have been great in teaching me.

Is that just one AAA that your rear LED takes? How long would you say it lasts? I may do the same and keep the hub power for front. This would cut down on the wires too.


stewartpratt wrote:Nope, that's not right at all :)

That's for you to decide. In urban areas with street lighting, primarily the former. In rural areas, both.

For what it's worth I use a steady German asymmetric beam up front (a flashing light drives me nuts, a symmetrical torch-type beam drives other road users nuts) and another rear, both driven by dynamo. Then I have an additional 5-LED battery rear, which I use either (a) not at all because the dyno rear is generally enough, (b) strobing to catch an eye in traffic with minimal power use, or (c) flashing to catch an eye more prominently eg in mist/fog. And a pair of coin-sized Backupz lights in case of failures.



Thank you, nice setup
I'll read up on asymmetric / symmetrical beams as i'm unsure of the difference.
Would you say the life of a dynamo driven light is just as good as a battery?
by Bike-Rich
5 Feb 2014, 9:29am
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Thank you very much Stuart, i've made some notes from that - much appreciated.

I've never really done much night riding before and plan to avoid it on my tour but obviously need to take precautions in case I am caught out.
Am I right in saying a 'strobe/flashing' light is required for rear and the front should feature both strobe and constant?
Is the main purpose of bike lights to warn other drivers of a presence or for actually seeing where you are going?

Thanks,
by Bike-Rich
4 Feb 2014, 11:01pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Thanks,

So when I purchase lights, I should be looking for something that is 'Dynamo' or 'AC' power source compatible?
A LED light working off rechargeable batteries (AA) would not work?
by Bike-Rich
4 Feb 2014, 6:57pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Many thanks for all replies,

rollinbone wrote:
My bike has B&M lights front and rear which are also powered by the hub--
If you have it wired up like mine (the hubs output is split - one set of wires go to the eWerk, another to the F light)
If both are in use at the same time though, they share the power, so each get abouth 50% of the output which will both reduce the USB charge and the lighting

Please note the lighting power does not go through the eWerk - but direct to your light(s)


Thank you, great looking set-up,

So to confirm, even on your bike the lights are going from the 'lights output' on the e-werk? Was splitting the cable (front and rear light) difficult?

Why is the lights treated as a separate output? I could understand it with older type lights but surely with modern efficient ones they all have buffer batteries in and are low-use comparable to things like smart phones?

Thanks
by Bike-Rich
1 Feb 2014, 9:47pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Thank you,

Going back to what someone said about not allowing multiply connections at once, this will be fine 90% of the time as mostly I'll just have a GPS or phone connected. But there may be a time when I need the lights also, someone said the lights have a different connection input on the E-werk - so 1 device & lights are ok simultaneously (on regular ewerk)?

Thanks,
by Bike-Rich
1 Feb 2014, 8:08pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

That's made it even more clearer, thank you.

So Dynamo is making AC which is no good for most devices so the Ewerk coverts this to DC, combined with the multi connections of the Ewerk this makes it a very handy device. I;m guessing there must be some kind of buffer battery inside the device?
by Bike-Rich
1 Feb 2014, 6:17pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Re: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Many thanks for help, thank you guys. That has made it much clearer.

FarOeuf wrote:
Lights are not plugged into the battery cache itself, if they are dynamo specific lights (which usually have a small battery cache themselves).



I see, does the e-werk have a separate input for lights? And, are there any front & rear lights you can recommend for use with a dynamo.

Rainman wrote:I have a USB e-werk connected to my son hub and from this I charge a 12000ma power pack this pack can also be charged from the mains I take a cheap phone with me for emg I buy a SIM card when I'm in Europe.The reason for the power pack is to charge my camera pluse my iPad that I use to contact home via face time or skype I also download a film or two pluse I like to read the paper in the morning.


Thank you, sounds good.
Can I ask why did you not go dynamo - power pack? Was it because you still required the multiple connections of the ewerk?
by Bike-Rich
1 Feb 2014, 2:14pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo
Replies: 36
Views: 18444

Is an Ewerk type device required for Dynamo

Hi all,

Something I need to clarify, once a dynamo has been fitted there will obviously be the power lead running from it (which would be mini-usb type connection?).

This would be fine if powering just 1 device (front light etc), but there will be times when I will require more (2 lights, gps). I presume this is where the Ewerk comes into play - am I right in saying it acts as a splitter transfer the power directly or is there a built-in battery (therefore devices are charging from battery rather then the direct feed).

Thank you.
by Bike-Rich
31 Jan 2014, 4:53pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Touring Rack & Mudguards
Replies: 6
Views: 10598

Re: Touring Rack & Mudguards

Really appreciate you help guys, much appreciated, looking through suggestions now.

gloomyandy wrote: Front racks come in a few variants and which ones works best on your bike will depend on the exact type of mounting you have on the forks. So it is probably worth providing details of your frame and forks so people can offer advice based on what you have.



Good point, I have a 700c Long Haul Trucker fram with standard matching Surly fork, rim type braking (not disc).

Thanks.
by Bike-Rich
30 Jan 2014, 9:57pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Touring Rack & Mudguards
Replies: 6
Views: 10598

Touring Rack & Mudguards

Hi all,

I have my touring frame sorted (700c) and next on list is front/rear racks, I presume all makes of racks should be usable on all frames on this size?
Can anyone recommend any good models to look out for please?

Same for mudguards, I imagine the thickness of tyre will limit me to which types I can use, i'm not sure how thick I will be going yet but if I can just get some ideals on what to look out for that would be great,

Thank you,
by Bike-Rich
23 Jan 2014, 8:25pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: USA visa
Replies: 1
Views: 13318

USA visa

Hi all,

I know its a requirement to get a ESTA to qualify for the VWP for travel to the USA, but once this is granted I understand it gives me 3 months of travel?
How long a time is the ESTA valid for before travel needs to take place do you know?

Thanks,
by Bike-Rich
23 Jan 2014, 8:08pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Siberia Winter Bike Tour
Replies: 30
Views: 64603

Re: Siberia Winter Bike Tour

Sounds great, best of luck and enjoy it.

If you get chance can you let me know what kind of bike you have and the equipment you are taking,

Thanks you,