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by F70100
15 Dec 2013, 4:51pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Gearing question
Replies: 38
Views: 2612

Re: Gearing question

keyboardmonkey wrote:If the OP is still interested I would recommend the Kinesis Racelight T2 for your apparent needs. If you go for it I am going to assume you are having a 10-speed cassette, so here are a few suggestions:


Still here and still interested!

Having only ridden my 25 year old non maintained Dawes hybrid in fits and starts over the last 20 years, last week I took advantage of Evans Cycles test ride offer to try an up to date road bike. Having listened to my brief, I was guided to try a Trek Madone (alu frame, carbon fork, compact 50/34 and 12-30). I managed about 3 miles before getting a puncture but was able to reassure myself (within the limitations of the test ride) that the ratios available in that compact setup would probably be fine, and that the Madone geometry was too aggressive. Notwithstanding that, the bike was head and shoulders above my old Dawes (as you would expect).

It seems some manufacturers are designing for a "sportive" market; essentially road bikes with a more relaxed geometry. The Cannondale Synapse is one potential model on my list, and comparing the geometry of that frame to the T2, they don't appear (to me) to be remarkably different in the 54cm frame size. It's possible that my LBS's proposals for wheels (Miche sealed hubs and more spokes) might be more suited to my needs than the wheels specced in the Synapse - not sure... The Cannondale also has a disc brake but that's going to be a whole new debate I suspect :D .

Coming down to the differences:

Kinesis - external cable routing, rack top mounts brazed on, saddle to buy, perhaps better wheels, conventional callipers.

Cannondale - internal cable routing, clips available cheaply for top rack mounts, starter saddle included, don't know anything about wheels, disc brake.

Prices are broadly similar.

Which colour scheme do I like best :D ???
by F70100
4 Dec 2013, 3:19pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Gearing question
Replies: 38
Views: 2612

Re: Gearing question

horizon wrote:
F70100 wrote:Hi folks.

New bike customer here looking for a day bike/ b&b-tourer and am being steered (by my very helpful local bike shop) towards a bike built around a Kinesis T2 frame with triple 50/39/30 and 12-30 cassette.



F70100: I get the uncomfortable feeling that you shouldn't even be looking at what a Galaxy has. The T2 AIUI is a winter trainer, i.e. really a road bike with some respect to practicalities. That will give you a good day rider but if you are partly hankering after a tourer then you might just end up with a string of "The Galaxy has this, can I have it on the T2?" questions. For many people I would presume this bike will be an excellent light tourer but they may be making a different set of compromises. The fact that the gearing has already given you food for thought means that you might not have fully explored the options before deciding on this bike and, I have to say, it might have been in the best interests of the bike shop to steer you away from doing so. I hope not.


No decisions yet from me. My LBS have spent a lot of time with me and I do believe are trying the supply the product that I need/want. The problem for both of us that I'm not absolutely sure what I need/want (i.e. out and out tourer or customised road bike with a nod to touring). They sell both products so I don't think they have a particular vested interest. In fact, I do feel a tinge of disloyalty when I look at products that they don't sell (competing brands), bearing in mind how much effort they have made up to now.
by F70100
4 Dec 2013, 12:48pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Gearing question
Replies: 38
Views: 2612

Re: Gearing question

I live in Suffolk. There are hills, some steep, but I don't think I would classify them as long (will stand corrected).

Planned tours would be UK tourist stuff (C2C, Way of the Roses etc). If these leave me wanting more a further "investment" may be required... I feel i might be at the top of a very slippery slope!

In the short term, I'll see what my dealer can come up with that is within the budget (I do like the look of the T2). I guess like everyone else, I'm trying to avoid a costly mistake by getting it right first time but without having any personal experience to base a decision on, (I don't know if I want a relaxed/racy riding style, how quickly my fitness might improve, what sort of trips I will actually do, etc) you have to start somewhere by just taking a punt with a best guess.

One thing I do know is that this is a great resource - I've just joined CTC!
by F70100
4 Dec 2013, 10:49am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Gearing question
Replies: 38
Views: 2612

Gearing question

Hi folks.

New bike customer here looking for a day bike/ b&b-tourer and am being steered (by my very helpful local bike shop) towards a bike built around a Kinesis T2 frame with triple 50/39/30 and 12-30 cassette.

Having checked out the touring top tips sticky thread and Sheldon Browns gear calculator, I don't know if I should be concerned that the lowest ratio available will be 26". I note that tourers such as Galaxies sport a low ratio of 22". Some touring advice seems to suggest that something in the high teens might be beneficial (if not now, then at least eventually).

Should I try to find a chain ring for my build with 48/36/26 (as per Galaxies). This combo doesn't seem to be available on the usual components suppliers websites (Ribble, Parker Int etc).

Bike crew will be 53 year old male, 1.72m x 85kgs, average fitness and no experience.