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by roubaixtuesday
10 Jul 2019, 12:23pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

You mean all those lorries carrying imports from the EU won't get through and all the people in the EU whose living depends on them will happily accept the consequences such as unemployment? We'll see. Everyone will manage. The apocalyptic predictions of the more excitable Remainers can safely be i...
by roubaixtuesday
10 Jul 2019, 11:27am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Except freight through the ports? You mean all those lorries carrying imports from the EU won't get through and all the people in the EU whose living depends on them will happily accept the consequences such as unemployment? We'll see. Everyone will manage. The apocalyptic predictions of the more e...
by roubaixtuesday
10 Jul 2019, 9:29am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Well done. You addressed the point I was making. Nice to have a civilised debate, isn't it? For me, we need to come closer to equalising immigration and emigration. And no, I have not heard one politician of any complexion suggest a well thought out strategy for this. It requires more than just lea...
by roubaixtuesday
10 Jul 2019, 9:04am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Obviously it's not completely true, by making the UK a worse place to live and promoting racism we have managed to have some effect on immigration so I guess in that sense brexit has achieved that although I personally don't see rising hate in quite the same way as some folk obviously do. Net migra...
by roubaixtuesday
10 Jul 2019, 9:00am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

You have missed out one stage in the rise of Europe as an issue in UK politics. I suspect the crucial change was the dramatic rise in immigration from the EU, which came to far exceed emigration, and fuelled a threat to Conservative parliamentary seats. The driver was more the migration figures rat...
by roubaixtuesday
10 Jul 2019, 6:49am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

The issue has always been an important one to many people. The increasing success of UKIP in the European elections showed us that, as they were elections which those people treated as a single issue ones, that issue being EU membership. I can find no evidence for this whatever. As late as 2014 onl...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 7:24pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

If only our politicians had gone out over the years and done this then they wouldn't have been so surprised at the result of the 2016 people's vote. The European Union was way down on most peoples issues prior to the referendum being called. It hardly figured, except amongst the political elite. Go...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 5:47pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Are people's political views so fragile they'll throw away their beliefs of years over a single issue? Yes, in spades: Most Conservative members would see party destroyed to achieve Brexit https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/06/18/most-conservative-members-would-see-party-des...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 3:37pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

The future will decide if the most basic act of democracy is legally binding or not. The UK wants more democracy, The EU wants less, hence all the trouble we have - past, present and future. Of course, that's why Brexiters are agin a 2nd vote. Because they want more democracy. Makes perfect sense. ...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 1:07pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

The idea that people who voted for Brexit did so out of stupidity and/or low income is, well, stupid. There are plenty of rich and well educated people in favour of Brexit, and the Brexit campaign itself was populated by the rich elite, it was never a working class movement. The problem is that the...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 12:55pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

In this country there is one major party which gets the bulk of the votes of the C2DE socio-economic group, people who generally have the fewest educational qualifications. We do not hear their opponents question the validity of their election victories because of this. mercalia wrote: Jeremy Corby...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 8:34am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Of course, that's why Brexiters are agin a 2nd vote. Because they want more democracy. Makes perfect sense. It's also why they want to stop Parliament from having a say, and why they want to dismantle our institutions: the judiciary, the civil service and the universities. It's the Will of the Peop...
by roubaixtuesday
9 Jul 2019, 7:44am
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

The future will decide if the most basic act of democracy is legally binding or not. The UK wants more democracy, The EU wants less, hence all the trouble we have - past, present and future. Of course, that's why Brexiters are agin a 2nd vote. Because they want more democracy. Makes perfect sense.
by roubaixtuesday
8 Jul 2019, 8:24pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

Do you think votes in a democracy should only be advisory unless they go your way? please answer the question Please refrain from putting words in others mouths. Thank you. For someone who likes to ask a lot questions you're not so keen on answering them Please refrain from putting words in others ...
by roubaixtuesday
8 Jul 2019, 8:08pm
Forum: The Tea Shop
Topic: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'
Replies: 17600
Views: 429367

Re: ** The Brexit Thread ** - 'Brexit Means Brexit'

So you really think votes in a democracy should only be advisory unless they go your way? So that's a yes then Please refrain from putting words in others mouths. Thank you. Do you think votes in a democracy should only be advisory unless they go your way? please answer the question Please refrain ...