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Dissuading the use cars is a lot more difficult :-

- Travel by flying is mainly a choice : a whim : avoidable : part of the mass-tourism frenzy with associate bragging rights.

- Travel by motor vehicle is now so deeply embedded in the way we live that it will probably take a generation or two to change peoples thinking/planning and the way we live i.e. (motorised personal travel as my right and ignore the disbenefits ) OR ( I have to do it, because I live here and work there ). . . .

One part of the overall problem is that travel is hugely energy intensive. Where will all the energy come from to replace fossil-fuel ?
( . . . . particularly if we follow this trend of driving ever larger&heavier vehicles [ more bragging rights

] )

Paulatic wrote:One of my biggest disappointments was when CTC used to allow a member’s' 'anti windmill' propaganda a large display area at the Birthday Rides. I was told at the time he was a large financial benefactor to the club and wasn’t to be upset.

That's a classic

Joe Punter says :-
"I demand electrical power at all times BUT there's no way I'll accept any of the consequential disbenefits - by sight, sound, smell, etc."

"Hide/ignore the bad stuff : out-of-sight : abroad : near the poor people : whatever . . . . and let the future generation sort it out ( if any left )".

MattHodges wrote:Resolution 6. Stopping promotion of cycling holidays that involve flying (yes the wording says reduce and ultimately stop)

Thank for bringing that to my attention.
It's great to see Cycling UK taking a principled stand on this.
Surely, people must understand that burning massive amounts of fossil-fuels to fulfil our every whim is environmentally unsustainable ( and inexcusable ).

One might expect that folks who tour around on bicycles would be very aware of their (low) environmental impact and would likely seek to minimise their use of fuel-burning motors to assist their experiences.

Identical duplicate topics merged. . . . . . . . Now you know that duplicate topic is never a good idea

Yep, new bike time deffo !

Mike_GMT80 wrote:Also, why has this automatically been posted on the footer of my first post??

“I'm a trendy consumer. Just look at my wobbly bog brush using hovercraft full of eels“

Cheers
Mike

Everyone hates the Tapatalk spam . . . .
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Sorry if I have naffed up the flow. TC.
I split this out of the general membership topic because of the following - which seemed to be the critical decision point.

Rod Goodfellow wrote: . . . .Should the proposed removal of seniors discount be removed I shall seek alternative 3rd party insurance and terminate my membership.Insurance suggestions welcome.

I found this radio 4 program rather worthwhile. It is nearly an hour long, but somehow kept my attention for the whole duration.

"The 17-year-old campaigner Greta Thunberg tells the story of her whirlwind year, which took her across the Atlantic twice as she went to speak to the UN General Assembly. . . . . etc. . . . "
Summer with Gretha

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simonineaston wrote:So, in summary, the end of The Earth's ability to support higher life is ensured, because our politiicians - a tiny, tiny minority - have bottled it... interesting take on the fabel of the Tower of Babel!

Ahem, well it's us that vote for them .

Equivalent to blaming the manufacturers & producers, when it is us consumers making the buy/not-to-buy decision .

To get out of this one we all have to take more personal responsibility for our choices.
AND
We need ( to vote for ) politicians who show us how to live environmentally sustainable lives
AND
We need the "circular economy" where individuals and organisation cannot just pass on or ignore the problems that they generate.
Oh, AND
An economic system that does fully account for environmental damage caused.

This is all entirely possible. . . . . but we still have our heads in the sand . .. blaming everyone else.

Get a grip folks - this isn't a rehearsal.

Now I'm just barely remembering how the early lockdown days seems like some unreal fantasy.

Loads of people out walking and cycling on the country lanes, with everyone smiling and greeting each other.
Hardly a motor vehicle to be seen/heard/smelt and those drivers that were out behaving very carefully(*).
A paradise found and re-lost.

* Some outrageous exceptions alas !

As our own "leaders" have comprehensively failed to show us how to live an environmentally sustainable lifestyle ( at a personal level ), perhaps we should follow the example of these fine fellows in Afghanistan :-

What the heroin industry can teach us about solar power

OTOH. Perhaps we should only vote for persons who can demonstrate a sustainable lifestyle ?

I agree TC ( of course ).

The trend in "normal living" over the decades has been to remove physical activity from daily life.

The monstrous "elephant-in-the room" is (perceived) need to move around in 1+tonne metal boxes to achieve normal living functions.
Everyone now plans their lives expecting to travel around a lot, using motorised transport.
This has certain interesting consequences . . .

Cycling for TRANSPORT elegantly integrates some beneficial physical effort into daily life without having to find significant additional time to do an additional activity.

However, we are up against a whole system that is invested in perpetuating the status quo. . . . .. deeper on down

Of course, it's been bleedin' obvious to us lot for decades that :-
- active lifestyles = GOOD
- sedentary lifestyles = BAD
. . . maybee, something to do with us animals evolved for being active versus "modern life" replacing all physical activity with fossil-fuelled machinery.

No need to move. . . just press a button and blob-out [ and stuff your face with highly processed sweet fat to blot out the mental anguish from that disconnect ].

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53541866

Another false dawn OR [another] first step on a VERY long journey ?

Previously on this Forum :
Diabetes NHS cost £10Billion, why no backing for cycling
Cycling & the Health of the Nation Article
Why we need to spend less on the NHS
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