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horizon wrote:

Phileas wrote:

horizon wrote:However, I do have issues with the over-medicalisation of health.

So the extraordinary spike in deaths recently (or “excess deaths”), is just a random fluctuation?

I understand my own statement and I understand yours but not the connection between the two. Help please.

1. It wasn't doing anything at all but deaths and infections rise for their own reasons - though we don't yet know as it hasn't yet ended (except in other countries where AFAIK, there hasn't been an increase). That's my belief.

Correct. Picked to take in winter flu. And yes 16% is significant but is it significant enough to shut the economy down for months and build up a national debt that will take generations to pay

irc wrote:

Ellieb wrote:

irc wrote:
Fine. I would support that. I support reaaonable measures. I don't support a blanket lockdown which makes me a criminal if I engage in a zero risk activity like driving a short distance and hillwalking alone. Or exercising alone more than once a day. Etc, etc.

As I said above UK infections started declining before lockdown.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=h ... AdAAAAABAE
It’s a bit like a speed limit. You might be the best driver in the world and able to accurately judge a safe speed to drive without having a law limiting your speed. However, the law is there because collectively, people aren’t able to do that.

They can in Sweden. Most people were adapting behaviour before the lockdown.

irc wrote:
Fine. I would support that. I support reaaonable measures. I don't support a blanket lockdown which makes me a criminal if I engage in a zero risk activity like driving a short distance and hillwalking alone. Or exercising alone more than once a day. Etc, etc.

As I said above UK infections started declining before lockdown.

Anyhow just typed flour into Ebay and there's loads for sale.

No it’s what we’re being force fed.
Some believe the propaganda some don’t.

mercalia wrote:An important article on Covid-19 and Evolution


But an evolutionary approach suggests a different view. What if there are different versions of this coronavirus — some less deadly than others? All viruses mutate. Typically, a rapidly spreading virus tends to become less harmful as it changes because this helps it survive. If the virus kills too many of its hosts, it is more likely to die out. If it becomes milder, it spreads further.......Think about the lockdown. We have substantially reduced the number of people circulating in the community. If lockdown is working, and stopping the spread of the virus, it might be reducing the circulation of milder versions among the population, while at the same time concentrating people with the most severe disease in hospital wards.......So, lockdown might actually be slowing the tendency of this new disease to get milder with time.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/could-the-lockdown-have-side-effects-no-one-has-considered

pete75 wrote:

Ellieb wrote:

Flour is hardly a rare commodity - almost every shop that sells food stocks the stuff.

Er. I think you'll find there's a well known national shortage of flour for the public. I haven't seen it in a supermarket since before lockdown
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/a ... who-we-are

There's plenty of flour being produced. We often get ours from a mill a couple of villages away and they've got masses of the stuff. Widen your horizons - supermarkets are not the only shops.

Flour is hardly a rare commodity - almost every shop that sells food stocks the stuff.

fastpedaller wrote:I tried to email this directly to Daniel, but the email address wouldn't work. Hope he sees it here

Hi Daniel, I’ve completed the questionnaire linked via Cycling UK forum as best as possible and had the same issues highlighted by others. For info, certainly for myself (maybe for others?) the ‘cycling profile’ eg how many years riding in an urban environment may lead to misinformation, as I have 23 years experience of urban, and then moved to a rural area 17 years ago – likewise the questions relating to activity state eg Do you time trial long distance? I used to ride up to 12 hour time trials before I moved area, but had to answer no, even though I have that experience. Re ‘safety lights’ it is unclear whether you mean a ‘daytime light’ – I certainly would oppose such an item as other road users should be able to see a cyclist in daylight! If you are referring to cycle lights at night, I would certainly use these if riding at night.