Cycling UK Forum

nsew wrote:“Pro-Kremlin media outlets have been prominent in spreading disinformation about the coronavirus, with the aim to aggravate the public health crisis in western countries, specifically by undermining public trust in national healthcare systems,” states the report, seen by the Guardian.

There are traitors amongst us spreading the Kremlin’s message.

pete75 wrote:

Ellieb wrote:

pete75 wrote:
If it was an essential part of their plan, if indeed they have a cogent plan, it would have been included in the legislation. I've only heard the once a day from Johnson, a man hardly known for truthfulness.

What we have learned so far from this episode is that the Govt puts out guidelines/rules. People try and get around what is intended by reading the small print or ignoring the guidelines because they aren't madatory. The Goevernment then has to go further. If people decide they can exercise as often as they like, then we'll just get full lockdown. Personally I don't see the point of pushing against the boundaries every time because you just achieve the opposite effect. What's the sense in that?

In this case the government has enacted legislation not put out guidelines. Legislation is not small print it's the law. Doing something the National Police Chief's Council say is allowed is not pushing against any boundaries.

pete75 wrote:

Ellieb wrote:

pete75 wrote:Exercise session are not restricted to one a day.

"On Friday, the NPCC said that country walks were not banned under legislation that came into force on Thursday - nor was exercising more than once a day." NPCC being the National Police Chiefs Council. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52066145

The Health Protection act passed yesterday defines one of the reasonable excuses to leave home as being "to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household" . It places no restrictions on the number of times this can be done in a day.

Right, but be clear here. The restriction they have made is not making it illegal, but they are saying, don't do it more than once a day. (see Boris' news conference 24th March.) So we come back to whether you feel you should be ignoring the Government's plans for dealing with the virus. Its not against the law, but they don't want you to do it.

If it was an essential part of their plan, if indeed they have a cogent plan, it would have been included in the legislation. I've only heard the once a day from Johnson, a man hardly known for truthfulness.

pete75 wrote:Exercise session are not restricted to one a day.

"On Friday, the NPCC said that country walks were not banned under legislation that came into force on Thursday - nor was exercising more than once a day." NPCC being the National Police Chiefs Council. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52066145

The Health Protection act passed yesterday defines one of the reasonable excuses to leave home as being "to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household" . It places no restrictions on the number of times this can be done in a day.

Ellieb wrote:

OK so yes people are dying of this but people are dying every day anyway.The average ranges from 30,000+ per month to 50,000+ per month year on year.

Maybe if people used the "lockdown" to calm down look into statistics and facts there wouldn't be so much conflict?

If it's nothing out of the ordinary why is this happening?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 24541.html

& this?
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... d-11959994

You can quote all the stats you like but what is happening in the real world is a bit challenging for your cosy world view.
A couple of weeks until the peak hits in the UK (assuming people obey the rules)

Once again you're missing the point.
Unfortunately I don't live in a cosy little world anymore because mass hysteria has all but shattered that.
Why is it that statistics...actual facts...seem to be ignored by many who jump on a media-fueled bandwagon then actaully condemn those who choose to look at the facts and try to keep calm.
Truely bewildering.

PH wrote:

Ellieb wrote:Nope not me. I was the bloke who thought he had a bit in common with you because we were both once motorbike couriers. Seems a crisis has brought out a side in you that wasn't evident from most of your earlier posts. sad

OT - Ellieb, do you think you could make the quotes so it's clear who you're quoting, would make it easier to follow (Or ignore)

Aren't you the guy that nearly had kittens when I started suggesting I would make my ebike bigger and faster?
IIRC I made it more and more ludicrous well past the point of stupidity and you were so wound up you didn't even spot what I was doing...

OK so yes people are dying of this but people are dying every day anyway.The average ranges from 30,000+ per month to 50,000+ per month year on year.

Maybe if people used the "lockdown" to calm down look into statistics and facts there wouldn't be so much conflict?

Obviously I admit fanning the flames a bit but I rather enjoy winding up old clocks.

My other view on this

I thought they were saying it was people with underlying health conditions, why the old have a higher risk?

mercalia wrote:worrying development?

Chloe Middleton: Coronavirus victim, 21, 'had no health issues'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709

I was wondering if it started to mutate again to some thing worse