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by Keith
30 May 2012, 3:29pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: 1" threaded headset crown sizes
Replies: 22
Views: 4003

Re: 1" threaded headset crown sizes

...the LBS took too much metal off the forks...
This isn't an easy job for a bike shop to do, and I doubt that many have enough experience. I thought it was a lot safer to risk filing the crown race (even if I can't file an accurate circle!).

Incidentally, the crown race that I picked up on the market stall is a 27mm one. At some stage I will probably need to replace the headset on my wife's clubtour of the same age, so I'm ahead of the game now!
by Keith
29 May 2012, 11:31pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: 1" threaded headset crown sizes
Replies: 22
Views: 4003

Re: 1" threaded headset crown sizes

Yes, resolved, but quite a palaver!
I contacted St John Street Cycles, and got a helpful reply from Josh, who pointed me to a Shimano hp-m-563 crown race which is 27.0mm dia. He also noted "This fits with the majority of the 1” sealed bearing headsets with a slight modification. All you need to do to get this to work perfectly with the A9 headset is file back its outer lip ever so slightly ". This was good advice and I was happy to order one (which cost me £7.60 inc postage) though I had misgvings about trying to file the cup of the A9 - it's hardened! If it wasn't hardened, I could simply have stuck the original A9 crown race in the lathe and turned it up to 27.0mm but the cone needs to be hardened if it is to last any length of time. As predicted, the Shimano crown race was slightly too large in diameter to fit (just) inside the A9 cup, which was too hard to file, so "plan B" (my plan!) was put into action - file the new crown race down to fit the cup!! This is an alloy crown race and I was able to file it, carefully, until it fitted the A9 cup without contact. I did notice that the caged balls do not run in exactly the right place on the crown race (there's a bit of wobble) but I decided to reassemble and see how it felt when complete. So the A9 cups were fitted to the frame using a fitting tool manufactured in my workshop - a very hefty piece of cast iron pipe about 10" long and about 1.25" diameter, with a separate brass ring about 1.75" diameter, and about 1" thick, machined on the lathe so that the hole through the middle was a comfortable fit over the steerer. The cast iron tube, with a little assistance from a hammer, was used to whack the brass ring, which was resting on the new crown race. It went nicely into place on the fork crown. (As an aside, before I could even start the job, I had to manufacture another brass tool to get the old cups out of the frame steerer tube - the 60-year old Myford still earns its keep).

With everything reassembled and the headset carefully tightened, I have now ridden about 100 miles and it's absolutely fine - no looseness, no 'notchiness' so the job's done and I'm grateful to SJS for their advice, as I don't think they could have anticipated this problem when they specified 27.0mm eleven years ago.
Now there is a post-script to this tale. I visited the cycle bits stand on the local market today, and while browsing (as one does) through an odd bits box, I spied a crown race. "How much is this" I asked. "Oh, it's probably part of a headset, the other bits might be there" was the reply. I rummaged for a moment, and asked if he'd got a ruler since it was certainly worth having if it was the magic 27.0mm size. The best that could be found was an ancient imperial steel tape, so that didn't help, then the stallholder said "oh, you can have it". "Thanks!" So I duly went home with a crown ring, wondering if it was 26.4 or 27.0mm.

Well, it's getting late and that's enough for now.

:wink:
by Keith
19 May 2012, 8:47pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: 1" threaded headset crown sizes
Replies: 22
Views: 4003

Re: 1" threaded headset crown sizes

Why not just get a straight replacement from SJS as it`s a Thorn,and you have had good mileage out of the original?
Or have i missed something?


Aye, lad, but the Yorkshire blood in me says t'rest of it's not worn out yet.....
by Keith
19 May 2012, 6:42pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: 1" threaded headset crown sizes
Replies: 22
Views: 4003

Re: 1" threaded headset crown sizes

I recalled wrongly it seems; both places sell it 26.4mm crown race size so it is no good for you then....

That's what I found, too!


It wouldnt just be your crown race, the headtube is a slightly different size aswell.


Thanks, both.
Oh, it just gets worse, doesn't it?

:(
by Keith
19 May 2012, 6:00pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: 1" threaded headset crown sizes
Replies: 22
Views: 4003

1" threaded headset crown sizes

I'm replacing the headset in my 2001 Thorn Clubtour. The original one's done about 40,000 miles and has become rather pitted.
I have fully removed the old headset and want to fit the new one.
Having bought a Stronglight A9 I found the crown race won't fit on the forks, because the A9 is 26.4mm internal diameter, but the forks appear to be 27.0mm dia.
Through a bit of Google searching I quickly discovered that there are, indeed, two standards for crown race dia for 1" steerers - ISO 26.4mm and JIS 27.0mm. Great!
I wasn't aware of this difference when I ordered the headset and, having looked at numerous bike shop websites today. Most don't say what size the crown is.
Before I start phoning around, can anybody recommend a reasonably priced JIS 27.0mm headset that will fit?

Alternative thought - anyone know if the crown race is hardened too much to take 0.3mm off in the lathe?

Thanks
Keith.
by Keith
17 Mar 2012, 10:57pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: 8 speed cassettes
Replies: 44
Views: 5357

Re: 8 speed cassettes

I've also looked for similar range 8-speed cassettes as I don't make a lot of use of 13 tooth or smaller sprockets.
I also like a range of about 25" - 100" and achieve this with a 46/36/24 chainset and Shimano 13-26 8 speed cassette.
My wife and I have this combination on three touring bikes and I'm currently trying to adapt my latest acquisition to the same spec.
This has worked pretty well with various levers and mechs., currently Sora on mine, SRAM gripshift on one of 'ers and a bog standard Shimano MTB 8 speed lever on t'other of 'ers. We've got various rear mechs., currently a Campag, a Suntour (New Old Stock when I got it) and a Shimano Altus or something similar, I think. They are all medium capacity and all work fine. The interesting bit is always finding a front mech that works! The best one is a Deore XT but an LX (don't know which!) and an unbranded cheapie also work reliably. I have several others that have been tried and failed to work!
The latest acquisition is a Shimano/Campag hybrid with Centaur levers, Campag changers front and read and a Shimano 8-speed cassette. I was dubious but it actually works very well.
Quite why new bikes don't have something like this is a mystery to me; it does the job all the time.
by Keith
17 Mar 2012, 6:18pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: how do I remove a stuck crank? (SOLVED)
Replies: 7
Views: 1276

Re: how do I remove a stuck crank? (problem solved)

DONE. One kettle of hot water was all it needed. Thanks, Brucey.

Keith.
by Keith
17 Mar 2012, 5:38pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: how do I remove a stuck crank? (SOLVED)
Replies: 7
Views: 1276

Re: how do I remove a stuck crank?

The thread that the crank extractor screws into is fine. The problem is that the crank is stuck on the square axle end, no doubt through a little bit of corrosion.
by Keith
17 Mar 2012, 5:17pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: how do I remove a stuck crank? (SOLVED)
Replies: 7
Views: 1276

Re: how do I remove a stuck crank?

ta, I'll try that before I light the blowlamp! :)
by Keith
17 Mar 2012, 5:05pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: how do I remove a stuck crank? (SOLVED)
Replies: 7
Views: 1276

how do I remove a stuck crank? (SOLVED)

Oh dear. I've left the left-hand pedal crank alone for far too long, and it stubbornly won't budge now!

The BB's a Shimano UN52. The crank's a Shimano Exage, I think. The crank puller hasn't moved it at all. Trying penetrating oil but so far it hasn't done the trick. Heat next? Or perhaps a bike shop?
by Keith
6 Mar 2012, 8:56pm
Forum: Cycling UK Member Groups and Affiliates
Topic: CTC Suffolk
Replies: 4
Views: 107254

Re: CTC Suffolk

CTC Suffolk has a slightly different, new domain name now...
http://ctcsuffolk.org.uk

Rides every Sunday (from St Margaret's Green, Ipswich 09.30 but check web site for full details) and Thursday (various starting points around the Ipswich area).
Also some Sundays, rides from Bury St Edmunds.
Come and join us if you're in the area or visiting. We're always pleased to see new (or old) faces.
by Keith
6 Mar 2012, 8:40pm
Forum: Cycling UK Member Groups and Affiliates
Topic: Taking the register
Replies: 7
Views: 90592

Re: Taking the register

On CTC Suffolk rides, the leader simply makes a note of who's at elevenses, lunch and tea and passes the info on to the rides secretary. Sometimes we manage to use a pre-printed list and tick off names but often it's just on a piece of paper. The Rides Sec keeps a list of everybdy who goes out on the rides, and they get a point for each of the stops. We have a trophy for the highest points on Sundays and on Thursdays... it's a bit of fun but it also enables us to keep track of the level of support on the rides. We plan our rides on a three-monthly list and it's useful to be able to see how much support we've had for things we've tried.

Keith.
by Keith
6 Mar 2012, 8:34pm
Forum: Cycling UK Member Groups and Affiliates
Topic: Suffolk - Bury St Edmunds & Newmarket area
Replies: 3
Views: 87558

Re: Suffolk - Bury St Edmunds & Newmarket area

I'm pleased to say that, this year, we will be arranging some Sunday rides starting in Bury St Edmunds.
Details will be on the CTC Suffolk web site
http://ctcsuffolk.org.uk

Other rides will, as always, take place on Sundays and Thursdays, starting in/around Ipswich.
Full details on the web site or contact me
Keith Halton (Hon Sec)

ctc.suffolk@btinternet.com
by Keith
11 Jul 2011, 2:52pm
Forum: Cycling UK Member Groups and Affiliates
Topic: Suffolk - Bury St Edmunds & Newmarket area
Replies: 3
Views: 87558

Re: Suffolk - Bury St Edmunds & Newmarket area

There was insufficient support in response to the 2010 survey we carried out, however we would still like to hear from members in the Bury / Newmarket area who would like to participate in any sort of CTC rides in that part of Suffolk.

If you would like to support any CTC rides, please contact the secretary, Keith, via ctc.suffolk@btinternet.com
by Keith
18 Jan 2011, 9:19am
Forum: Cycling UK Member Groups and Affiliates
Topic: CTC Suffolk
Replies: 4
Views: 107254

Re: CTC Suffolk

CTC Suffolk has a new domain name
http://suffolkctc.org.uk/

Same great rides, good company and quiet roads! If you live in Suffolk, or are visiting the area, check out our rides and come and join us.
Rides (from Ipswich or surrounding area) on Sundays and Thursdays.

For more information contact the secretary, Keith Halton
01473 716771 ctc.suffolk@btinternet.com