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- 24 May 2012, 9:10pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
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Re: Dawes Kingpin
500A size is ISO 32-440... You could fit an ISO 451 rim and 28mm tyre ("20x 1.1/8"), according to the CTC's tyre guide it's only 3mm bigger. Suddenly you'd have a high speed KIngpin! You'd probably need shorter reach brakes - no bad thing. The more common 406 rims are a fair bit smaller.
- 24 May 2012, 3:46pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
- Replies: 17
- Views: 13196
Re: Dawes Kingpin
I don't know where you are but there are loads of folders on EBay.
Today I have completed dismantled the blue bike to see what's what. The frame is in fine fettle but is not going to clean up, so I might have to repaint it, and the front rim is too rusty to clean up properly, so I need to think about my options there.
Today I have completed dismantled the blue bike to see what's what. The frame is in fine fettle but is not going to clean up, so I might have to repaint it, and the front rim is too rusty to clean up properly, so I need to think about my options there.
- 24 May 2012, 3:35pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
- Replies: 17
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Re: Dawes Kingpin
If you need tyres, 500A are rare (Dawes alway used 500As rather than the more common 20 X 1 3/8"). Oxford Products (ask your LBS) list white wall tyres, part number TYU500ABW. They won't be as good as old Michelin ones.They were certainly supplying them a year or so ago. If they are Swallow branded, check the size, I've seen some marked 500A and 20 X 1 3/8" on the same sidewall(!). I forget which label was correct.
If you want to tart the bikes up, Michelin used to make 500A 28c (narrow) HP amber skin wall tyres with herring bone tread as well, I would imagine a forum, E Bay purchase or recumbent circles.
Cheers,
James,
Oxford
If you want to tart the bikes up, Michelin used to make 500A 28c (narrow) HP amber skin wall tyres with herring bone tread as well, I would imagine a forum, E Bay purchase or recumbent circles.
Cheers,
James,
Oxford
- 24 May 2012, 1:28pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
- Replies: 17
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Re: Dawes Kingpin
Hercule covers it very well.
These are arguably better than a Raleigh Twenty, they're certainly much lighter and as mentioned, have normal parts. I had a skip rescue folding version briefly but had to bin it due to a snapped chainstay. I really want another folder but they aren't many around these parts.
These are arguably better than a Raleigh Twenty, they're certainly much lighter and as mentioned, have normal parts. I had a skip rescue folding version briefly but had to bin it due to a snapped chainstay. I really want another folder but they aren't many around these parts.
- 23 May 2012, 10:37pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
- Replies: 17
- Views: 13196
Re: Dawes Kingpin
hercule wrote:Nostalgia! My second bike was a Dawes Kingpin, mid 1970s I think, so contemporaneous with your bikes. I rode miles and miles on it (going much further than my parents ever suspected!). And so a cyclist was made...
Regarding restoration: I'm not aware of a big movement to restore these bikes, unlike 1960s Moultons. The good thing is that I believe Dawes used largely standard parts, unlike Raleigh who made things to their own standards and design. So standard cottered bottom brackets, hubs, headsets should all work fine.
I would actually suggest renovation rather than restoration if you are planning on using the bikes much: modern alloy rims and brakes are far better than their original steel versions. Sturmey dynohubs also work very well, apparently, with modern LED lighting - I remember feeble yellow glows from the original dynamo lights!
You might be able to improve the appearance of the paintwork with some T-Cut or similar but remember that these colour restorers take off the top layer of paint. As one with two Moultons of a slightly older vintage I actually prefer the patina of age! You could get them re-enamelled - period transfers are available for classic bikes, Kingpins aren't usually included in this category so you may not be able to get an exact match. I don't know if there's much you can do about the chrome short of rubbing of the worst of the rust and eventually getting them rechromed.
Again if you're looking for a usable bike rather than a concours restoration, using more modern components brings a number of advantages - better durability and reliability, better braking, corrosion resistance, and potentially a significantly lighter bike. Over the last 25 years that I've had my Moulton Deluxe it's shed 7 pounds off its original weight by incremental upgrade of parts - simply substituting aluminium for steel with NOS parts or things left in the bits box. The result is a reliable bike that's still on the road 48 years after it left the factory.
Many thanks for your detailed and informative reply. Ahh yes Nostalgia, it ain't what is used to be is it? A brief history I think is in order here. The Dawes KINGPIN was my second bike too, I got it brand new in 1970 when I was 12. It was bought by my mothers bloke, and I had to pay him back 15/- a week. ( it later became 75 p a week after decimilisation ) the bike cost me £35.15s.3d. It was blue exactly like the one above, with the dyno hub, lights, rack and rear bag, white wall tyres and the aluminium chain guard. I went everywhere on it for five years, to work, to school, to visit my mates, I regularly used to travel from NW London to Welling, Kent on it. Not bad for a twelve/thirteen year old. Anyway, I bought that one today on eBay as a job lot and it came with the purple later on as well. I hope to get the blue one up to a good standard, it never occurred to me to renovate instead of restore, I shall give that matter some thought. Once again thanks for your input.
- 23 May 2012, 10:22pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5303
Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
Thanks for the these links and the advice, I too am refurbishing two Dawes Kingpins. I'll keep you posted on my progress if anyone interested.
- 23 May 2012, 9:51pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
- Replies: 17
- Views: 13196
Re: Dawes Kingpin
Nostalgia! My second bike was a Dawes Kingpin, mid 1970s I think, so contemporaneous with your bikes. I rode miles and miles on it (going much further than my parents ever suspected!). And so a cyclist was made...
Regarding restoration: I'm not aware of a big movement to restore these bikes, unlike 1960s Moultons. The good thing is that I believe Dawes used largely standard parts, unlike Raleigh who made things to their own standards and design. So standard cottered bottom brackets, hubs, headsets should all work fine.
I would actually suggest renovation rather than restoration if you are planning on using the bikes much: modern alloy rims and brakes are far better than their original steel versions. Sturmey dynohubs also work very well, apparently, with modern LED lighting - I remember feeble yellow glows from the original dynamo lights!
You might be able to improve the appearance of the paintwork with some T-Cut or similar but remember that these colour restorers take off the top layer of paint. As one with two Moultons of a slightly older vintage I actually prefer the patina of age! You could get them re-enamelled - period transfers are available for classic bikes, Kingpins aren't usually included in this category so you may not be able to get an exact match. I don't know if there's much you can do about the chrome short of rubbing of the worst of the rust and eventually getting them rechromed.
Again if you're looking for a usable bike rather than a concours restoration, using more modern components brings a number of advantages - better durability and reliability, better braking, corrosion resistance, and potentially a significantly lighter bike. Over the last 25 years that I've had my Moulton Deluxe it's shed 7 pounds off its original weight by incremental upgrade of parts - simply substituting aluminium for steel with NOS parts or things left in the bits box. The result is a reliable bike that's still on the road 48 years after it left the factory.
Regarding restoration: I'm not aware of a big movement to restore these bikes, unlike 1960s Moultons. The good thing is that I believe Dawes used largely standard parts, unlike Raleigh who made things to their own standards and design. So standard cottered bottom brackets, hubs, headsets should all work fine.
I would actually suggest renovation rather than restoration if you are planning on using the bikes much: modern alloy rims and brakes are far better than their original steel versions. Sturmey dynohubs also work very well, apparently, with modern LED lighting - I remember feeble yellow glows from the original dynamo lights!
You might be able to improve the appearance of the paintwork with some T-Cut or similar but remember that these colour restorers take off the top layer of paint. As one with two Moultons of a slightly older vintage I actually prefer the patina of age! You could get them re-enamelled - period transfers are available for classic bikes, Kingpins aren't usually included in this category so you may not be able to get an exact match. I don't know if there's much you can do about the chrome short of rubbing of the worst of the rust and eventually getting them rechromed.
Again if you're looking for a usable bike rather than a concours restoration, using more modern components brings a number of advantages - better durability and reliability, better braking, corrosion resistance, and potentially a significantly lighter bike. Over the last 25 years that I've had my Moulton Deluxe it's shed 7 pounds off its original weight by incremental upgrade of parts - simply substituting aluminium for steel with NOS parts or things left in the bits box. The result is a reliable bike that's still on the road 48 years after it left the factory.
- 23 May 2012, 8:40pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin
- Replies: 17
- Views: 13196
Dawes Kingpin
I have bought two Dawes Kingpins with the intention of restoring them. One is from the late 60's early 70's and the other is from the mid 70's. If anyone has any usfuel inforamtion on how I might clean chrome, brighten up paint, and find parts I would be very grateful. I have done the usual web searches and have found some info, but I would like to see some photos of other resto Kingpins and any PDF of brochures if possible.
Below are a couple of pics.

Blue Kingpin

Blue Kingpin Seat Post

Purple Kingpin with front rack

Blue Kingpin Dyno Hub
Below are a couple of pics.
Blue Kingpin
Blue Kingpin Seat Post
Purple Kingpin with front rack
Blue Kingpin Dyno Hub
- 23 May 2012, 6:02pm
- Forum: The Tea Shop
- Topic: Introductions - tell us about yourself
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Re: Introductions - tell us about yourself
My real name: Carl
Age: FortyTwelve
Occupation: Self Emplyed
Favourite colour: Racing Green
Bikes/Cycling: I have a Cannondale Caad 9, a Trek Madone 3.5, a Marin San Rafeal for touring and 2 Dawes Kinpins
Status: Married
Interesting fact: I was once told to shut up and sit down by Chris Tarrent.
Hello, I've joined here to see if I can get some info and help on a 1970's Dawes Kingpin that I am going to restore, I guess the the parts section wold be a good place to start?
Age: FortyTwelve
Occupation: Self Emplyed
Favourite colour: Racing Green
Bikes/Cycling: I have a Cannondale Caad 9, a Trek Madone 3.5, a Marin San Rafeal for touring and 2 Dawes Kinpins
Status: Married
Interesting fact: I was once told to shut up and sit down by Chris Tarrent.
Hello, I've joined here to see if I can get some info and help on a 1970's Dawes Kingpin that I am going to restore, I guess the the parts section wold be a good place to start?
- 13 May 2012, 10:00pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
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Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
A nylon scouring pad and WD40 works well on lightly rusted chrome plated steel.
Move on to wire wool and WD40.
Move on to wire wool and WD40.
- 13 May 2012, 9:08pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5303
Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
If you need to remove the handlebar stem then you must first remove the front brake to release the limit strap to enable it's removal. This can catch you out if you are not familiar with it. When you come to rethread the cables through the frame thread an inner cable through first before threading the outer down over the inner.
It's worth searching the various forums using "kinpin" as the search term - there's quite a lot of info there.
It's worth searching the various forums using "kinpin" as the search term - there's quite a lot of info there.
- 13 May 2012, 8:34pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5303
Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
I'd stick a load of oil in the hub, check/adjust the bearings (LH side) and run it for a little while; if it is bone dry and/or maladjusted it'll drag exactly as you describe.
cheers
cheers
- 13 May 2012, 7:26pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
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Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
OK, I can replace the front axle and setup the cone adjustment as best I can.
I will replace the chain (and potentially the sprocket) with a 1/8" chain
The headset, cranks and BB seem OK to me (acceptable anyway)
I can have a go at the hub but may be touch and go and could be time to go down the 2nd hand bike/charity shop for a new one.
I will polish up the chrome parts and adjust spokes as necessary and check rims for too much wear.
New saddle and potentially post.
New cables and pads and will take caliper brakes apart and clean/lube.
Newt tyres and inners.
Check frame for cracks and misalignment.
Any thoughts on other jobs?
I will replace the chain (and potentially the sprocket) with a 1/8" chain
The headset, cranks and BB seem OK to me (acceptable anyway)
I can have a go at the hub but may be touch and go and could be time to go down the 2nd hand bike/charity shop for a new one.
I will polish up the chrome parts and adjust spokes as necessary and check rims for too much wear.
New saddle and potentially post.
New cables and pads and will take caliper brakes apart and clean/lube.
Newt tyres and inners.
Check frame for cracks and misalignment.
Any thoughts on other jobs?
- 13 May 2012, 6:33pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5303
Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
IIRC the magic number for the ETRTO size on Kingpins is '440' because that is the bead seat diameter in mm. 35x440 means a 35mm wide tyre that sits on a 440mm bead seat diameter. Any tyre (within reason) with 'width x 440' sizing should fit on your rims.
ETRTO list here, also see Sheldon Brown
http://www.harwoodcycles.com/tyre_size.htm
Kingpin refurb here;
http://www.bicyclehub.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=116
may be of interest
as well as this;
http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60322&start=30
cheers
ETRTO list here, also see Sheldon Brown
http://www.harwoodcycles.com/tyre_size.htm
Kingpin refurb here;
http://www.bicyclehub.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=116
may be of interest
as well as this;
http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60322&start=30
cheers
- 13 May 2012, 6:16pm
- Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
- Topic: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5303
Re: Dawes Kingpin - Service!
Thanks Brucey!
Ta for the heads up about the chrome and steel. will start off in that direction.
The Tyres have "Michelin 500A x 35 (440)" on them. Will these fit?
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/schwalbe-hs166-rigid-road-tyre-black-white-500-x-35a-(37-440)-prod12883/
I have seen some sites with confusing text about 500A not fitting even though they should...
The hub bearings are OK on the front so will try to salvage that wheel. There is some sort of pale 'furring' oxidation resembling limescale on the spokes however, I hope these haven't become too weak.
As for the Sturmey, would I be able to stop the hub trying to re-engage and push the pedals when coasting just by servicing? I guess it's something to do with the pawl/springs in there. Will get cracking.
H
Ta for the heads up about the chrome and steel. will start off in that direction.
The Tyres have "Michelin 500A x 35 (440)" on them. Will these fit?
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/schwalbe-hs166-rigid-road-tyre-black-white-500-x-35a-(37-440)-prod12883/
I have seen some sites with confusing text about 500A not fitting even though they should...
The hub bearings are OK on the front so will try to salvage that wheel. There is some sort of pale 'furring' oxidation resembling limescale on the spokes however, I hope these haven't become too weak.
As for the Sturmey, would I be able to stop the hub trying to re-engage and push the pedals when coasting just by servicing? I guess it's something to do with the pawl/springs in there. Will get cracking.
H