Ben@Forest wrote:pwa wrote:Exactly. As with every other country, England has a lot of really good aspects, but also serious faults. A positive approach is to keep and build on the good things and try to fix the problems. That applies to England, Wales, the USA, France, Germany, New Zealand, India...........................
I'm not really widely travelled though know much of western/central Europe well. I've been in some dodgy pubs, clubs and bars but the only place I've been where I walked into a pub and known we (there were two of us) definitely shouldn't be in there was New Zealand. A biker gang was in there (and apparently there are both white supremacist and Maori biker gangs). It was not pleasant and very different to the 'lovely, wonderful, peaceful, New Zealand' image which is normally portrayed.
The Mongrel Mob are a notoriously violent criminal biker gang in NZ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongrel_Mob
934 members in Prison as of 2013!!!!!!