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by LowPlainsDrifter
27 Mar 2012, 8:52pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks
Replies: 48
Views: 6705

Re: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks

Heres a couple of pics. You can see the bracket plate hits the fork.
I had a better look today and it looks like I will only have to chamfer/file the edge off the bracket plate to allow it all to sit back and clear the fat fork leg.
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by LowPlainsDrifter
27 Mar 2012, 11:55am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks
Replies: 48
Views: 6705

Re: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks

Brucey wrote:a spacer isn't a 'bodge' if it is done properly.

However, grinding (possibly safety critical) bits off your bike probably is.

There are spacers all over your bike that are just fine; what on earth makes you think that this one is going to be very much different?

cheers

I believe the amount i may have to space it out to clear the fork leg would be what I'd call a bodge as to me its just too far. it already has a spacer at that point. If I was to grind it would be just taking the corner off the bracket to clear the fork leg so it sat correct then. I wouldn't be going into the weld. I am about to have a look and see whats the best option. I will try take a pic.
I just wondered what other Steel frame Sadar users had encountered. There must be some who have a Tubus on the front.
by LowPlainsDrifter
27 Mar 2012, 11:49am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks
Replies: 48
Views: 6705

Re: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks

CREPELLO wrote:
clandyfield wrote:I'm intrigued!

Looking at this photo of a Sardar:
http://www.bikeradar.com/gallery/articl ... 15?img=1#3

coupled with the Tubus mounting instructions here:

http://www.tubus.com/product.php?xn=16
(especially the diagram of the front wheel setup)

I can't see how grinding anything off would be necessary if you are using the front part of the lower bracket.

I can see how the fork thickness would cause a problem as the tubus has to cross it to meet with the fixing hole.

My take would be that spacing it out as necessary would be perfectly OK as the bottom fixing would be "in shear" load wise, and a 5mm bolt would be more than adequate to support 8Kg load - but I always take a few spare bolts for my tubus racks just in case!!

Hope you can sort it without grinding!!

My reading of this is that The OP describes their Sardar as a STEEL FRAME, therefore the forks are quite different from the Sardar you've linked to. They have moderately over-sized blades compared to trad forks. Hence the conflict at the mounting points.

Suggestions to reassure the OP if you do use longer spacers. To make the lower mounting stronger you can reverse the bolt and attach a nut on the outside and you could drill out the mounting holes to M6 size, which is becoming a more common size for touring racks these days. There should be enough meat on the forks eyelets to enable this.

Yes, mines a Steel frame. Different than the alloy one shown in the pic.
I shall try take a photo and show the point where the carrier tube bracket is against the leg.
by LowPlainsDrifter
26 Mar 2012, 11:01pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks
Replies: 48
Views: 6705

Re: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks

Brucey wrote:if you use a spacer, how thick would it have to be?

cheers

I'd have to have a proper look tomorrow but I'm already using the spacer which comes with the carrier but I didn't want to make another as as it is I dont like the idea of a spindly little 4 or 5mm allen screw sat out even farther holding all that weight (of full pannier). Its just part of the corner edge of the bracket which hits the fork leg so I would rather grind that down but am loath to do so after spending good money on something then have to bodge once more.
by LowPlainsDrifter
26 Mar 2012, 8:11pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks
Replies: 48
Views: 6705

Tubus Tara prob/ Dawes Sadar (steel frame) forks

Hi, I just got a Tubus lo-rider Tara for my Sadar. Are there any other Sadar riders with a Tara on the forks?
My bottom mounting point bracket interferes with the fork tube (just above the drop out),with the forks being so thick. :(
I dont really want to grind anything off the bracket plate but may have to as at the moment its hitting the fork. Neither do I want to force it out away further by putting a bigger spacer in as it'll have to go out a way and this is going to compromise the strength then on a longer spindly screw/bolt fixing point. :x
Just wondered if any other Sadar riders have this prob with the Tubus mount?
cheers. Mart.
by LowPlainsDrifter
25 Mar 2012, 1:07pm
Forum: Does anyone know … ?
Topic: the sun
Replies: 12
Views: 3228

Re: the sun

I'll be utterly amazed if we have a summer. I doubt it very much. Not here.
by LowPlainsDrifter
12 Mar 2012, 10:11am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Value of Dawes Sardar
Replies: 27
Views: 3791

Re: Value of Dawes Sardar

Si wrote:Just changed all of the kit over from my Alu commuter to my One Down (a Sardar in all but name and disc mount). the improvement damping out the road buzz is tangible - must be down to the frame as it's the same wheels, tyres, saddle, etc. For a bike capable of taking the kitchen sink, it is very comfy when not loaded.

anyway, regarding price - depending on condition and kit, they seem to fall into the £300-£400 category for initial asking price.


What bars have you put on yours? This year i want to change my drops. I just cant get on with them. The only reason I kept them this long apart from work and too many motorcycle projects is I like the bar end shifters and want to rig something up to keep them or something as simple. Now I have been laid off work I can get on with it.
by LowPlainsDrifter
11 Mar 2012, 1:22am
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Value of Dawes Sardar
Replies: 27
Views: 3791

Re: Value of Dawes Sardar

I'd have thought it would bring a good price. After all you cant get many expedition bikes cheap. Its got the steel frame too.
I would think someone would snap it up.
by LowPlainsDrifter
12 Jan 2012, 12:05am
Forum: Does anyone know … ?
Topic: Carradice's Super C panniers
Replies: 32
Views: 5166

Re: Carradice's Super C panniers

geomannie wrote:After a long hard squawk, Wiggle have just sent me replacement panniers, including the necessary fittings. I'm afraid that I have to concur with the previous few posts about fitting the hooks. These are indeed tight and the rails are a bit rough.

I am also having a problem with the bottom hook. This seems to low for my rack (an old Blackburn clone) and I can't get the pannier to go on and off easily. Its tricky when empty; it would be very hard full.

Cheers

Same prob here with the bottom hook not fitting my Bor Yuah rack on my Sadar.
I plan to change the rack later this year for a Tubus Logo.
by LowPlainsDrifter
10 Jan 2012, 11:01pm
Forum: Does anyone know … ?
Topic: Carradice's Super C panniers
Replies: 32
Views: 5166

Re: Carradice's Super C panniers

I got my Super C rear panniers fromWiggle in May.
They came in a box which was not taped shut very well/ had gaps in so anything small could fall out. The panniers in a Plastic Carradice carrier bag which was open. There was only one set of clips in the bottom of the box for one pannier (they had come out of the main bag).
I contacted Wiggle and they said they would arrange for some clips to be sent direct from Carradice. I received a set for a pair of panniers about 2 weeks later. A bit slow but at least I got them. So now I have a spare set. :)
If only they would pack stuff more secure they wouldn't have been lost in the first place.
Oh, a tip. De-burr the end inside edge of the alloy rail with a small file etc. as they are cut off roughly. :shock: This will help the fitment of the clips and has been said, a little silicone spray or furniture polish spray will help them slide better. You still will have to tap them with a small hammer or suchlike to get them in and sliding.
by LowPlainsDrifter
28 Nov 2011, 8:21pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Logo rack.
Replies: 5
Views: 629

Re: Tubus Logo rack.

Thanks for the replies. I have read good reports on it but before I plump for it wanted to be sure my Super C's fit.
Mine, like Hufty, have the C system hooks.
by LowPlainsDrifter
28 Nov 2011, 4:36pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Tubus Logo rack.
Replies: 5
Views: 629

Tubus Logo rack.

Now I have been laid off work again (for the 4th time, for good probably ,the management are a-holes but that's another story) so now have plenty of time on my hands and want to spend some dosh I have before it devalues so much its worth bugger all I am thinking of buying a Tubus Logo pannier rack.
So my question is, anyone out there with one and what are you views? It'll be carrying camping gear and panniers etc.
Also do you know if my Carradice Super C's will fit this rack ok without messing? - (which they don't on my Bor Yueh rack!)
Oh, my bike is a Dawes Sadar. Steel frame. 26" wheels
Cheers.
by LowPlainsDrifter
28 Nov 2011, 4:25pm
Forum: Bikes & Bits – Technical section
Topic: Stiffening pannier fabric
Replies: 12
Views: 1561

Re: Stiffening pannier fabric

On my going to work (well until I just got laid off again!) and shopping /cheap hack bike I have some non name el cheapo panniers which tend to go into the wheel.
I cut some pieces of thin plywood to shove inside at the bottom to stop this which it has for the most part.
by LowPlainsDrifter
24 Jun 2011, 10:16pm
Forum: Touring & Expedition
Topic: Montane featherlight velo
Replies: 15
Views: 2632

Re: Montane featherlight velo

I have one and its great. It certainly is windproof.
Put on over a fleece I'm warm as toast and it packs up so small. One of the best buys of kit I have made.