Recommend me a sturdy bottle cage?

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PH wrote:This cheap one might suite your needs, I've used one to hold a fuel bottle in that position, but not for a while and I didn't have the issue with it fouling the chainring.
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Under the tube is a tricky position for a bottle cage.

One of my bikes has a Wilco bottle cage there - fastened on by jubilee clips (no mounts on that bike) and that works OK.

I can vouch for the Profile Design cage - I use it but not in that position. Clever design/materials engineering - seems like it will last for ever - if the cord goes, a bit of small diameter bungee will sort it. It allows a range of bottle sizes to be accommodated.

To be honest though, I wouldn't put a water bottle in that position - I'm not overly prissy but you never know what's being chucked up at it. For a fuel bottle, you can't beat the bike buddy. Takes a while to figure out the initial fitting but rock solid british engineering once you have (one time) sorted it.
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I have the black version of this - but they do a metal finish too - I have had no issues with them inside the frame triangle:

https://www.evanscycles.com/fwe-alloy-b ... e-EV160623

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freiston wrote:I have the black version of this - but they do a metal finish too - I have had no issues with them inside the frame triangle:

https://www.evanscycles.com/fwe-alloy-b ... e-EV160623

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that looks very like the wilko one, if they still do it. A lot cheaper.
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Sweep wrote:
freiston wrote:I have the black version of this - but they do a metal finish too - I have had no issues with them inside the frame triangle:

https://www.evanscycles.com/fwe-alloy-b ... e-EV160623

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that looks very like the wilko one, if they still do it. A lot cheaper.

The Wilco one is £3 (the Evans one is £7)
https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-water ... /p/0286542
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I've just returned to a Moulton and have opted for a Blackburn Mountain Bottle Cage Black for the underslung position. So far so good; holds the bottle much more securely than their standard model. Only slight problem is that the roll top makes splitting the bike a bit fiddly.

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alldownhill wrote:I've just returned to a Moulton and have opted for a Blackburn Mountain Bottle Cage Black for the underslung position. So far so good; holds the bottle much more securely than their standard model. Only slight problem is that the roll top makes splitting the bike a bit fiddly.
Having any standard bottle cage on the bottom makes the splitting a problem, or at least that's the way I see it with my TSR. Not the splitting specifically, but the re-joining.

I too consider the Blackburn MTB is the best one for the underslung. Not bought one yet.
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Mick F wrote:
alldownhill wrote:I've just returned to a Moulton and have opted for a Blackburn Mountain Bottle Cage Black for the underslung position. So far so good; holds the bottle much more securely than their standard model. Only slight problem is that the roll top makes splitting the bike a bit fiddly.
Having any standard bottle cage on the bottom makes the splitting a problem, or at least that's the way I see it with my TSR. Not the splitting specifically, but the re-joining.

I too consider the Blackburn MTB is the best one for the underslung. Not bought one yet.

Glad it’s not just me; I thought I was having a senior moment! Yes it was the rejoining that was tricky - fortunately I had one person to hold the rear, one to hold the front and me on alignment duty. When I had An AM7 many years ago I abandoned the concept of splitting.
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freiston wrote:I have the black version of this - but they do a metal finish too - I have had no issues with them inside the frame triangle:

https://www.evanscycles.com/fwe-alloy-b ... e-EV160623

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Those are sold under many many different brand names (e.g as Specialized e-cage). They are good and robust and I've found work well and last (and available in a range of different colours!).

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The Blackburn MTB cage is the one supplied by Spa, which as stated fouls the chain on the inner ring when the cage has a bottle in it - the only real problem I've found with an otherwise superb bike design. You can see here the difference between where the bolt holes are on the Blackburn (left) and Bontrager cages. You can also see at bottom right where the Bontrager cage has cracked, exactly where you might expect from the forces involved:

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Maybe for durability you need steel, and maybe the usual modern U-shape is not so good for the under slung position, allowing too much bouncing around? How about this, admittedly expensive, but hopefully long lasting, solution: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/221836096818?c ... 940&crdt=0 Image

EDIT: or this minimalist option from Planet X: https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/BOPXSTS/p ... ottle-cage Image
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Hi,
Not sure how underslung it is you are using (angle)?
I have been using Elite for years on my second set on the tourer, cosmetic only.
Also bought some elite copys, they are good but make sure the frame wire is same size.
The plastic ones tend to creep.
Fitted some on the road bike and needed bungees to keep the top tube underslung, is worst scenario, bungees on all three cages, only top one crept forward even with bungee, need to adjust the angle of bungee.

Side entry in metal like Elite Nane, I reckon.
Got a cheap plastic with nylon strap like the one Brucey posted, not tried yet but that should work.

The metal ones with plastic inserts like elite can be tweaked to hold more firm.
I don't have a side entry but considered it, Elite Nane Cussi looks good.
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niggle wrote:Maybe for durability you need steel, and maybe the usual modern U-shape is not so good for the under slung position, allowing too much bouncing around? How about this, admittedly expensive, but hopefully long lasting, solution: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/221836096818?c ... 940&crdt=0 Image


I was going to suggest the Nitto cage (Nitto 'T' or 'Touring') that those VO ones are based on, but they're even more expensive - £40 or so(!). Lovely bits of bike bling, mind; perfect for a trad looking tourer, and hold bottles rock solid.
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Hi,
I wonder if they ever do a shake down test on these bottle racks :?
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