Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby mjr » 14 Sep 2018, 1:02pm

Vorpal wrote:When I was teaching Bikeability to years 5 & 6, I had a few kids who had no idea how traffic moved and few who didn't seem to know how to cross the road without an adult telling them it was safe. I was convinced that it was because they were driven everywhere, and simply never did anything unsupervised, even at 11 or 12 years old.

I suspect it's just that they weren't allowed near a road unsupervised. As far as I've seen, children who aren't allowed to do anything unsupervised often rebel against the "do this / do that / don't do that" before they reach primary school age, which is both ironic and almost exactly what I'd hope for! :twisted: There is still hope for humanity...
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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby thirdcrank » 14 Sep 2018, 1:23pm

ibbo68 wrote: ... I had no choice regarding the tilte.My original title "Thoughts on this"? was change by the Moderators. ...


I'm not criticising the thread title whoever wrote it. I was trying to make the point about the unwelcome interraction with a child. Although in this case, part of the concern it has been the criticism, it might just as easily have been over-friendliness.

As I must already have posted, my policy these days days is "eyes front." These days, even the Good Samaritan might take a lot of flak.

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby ibbo68 » 14 Sep 2018, 1:28pm

thirdcrank wrote:
ibbo68 wrote: ... I had no choice regarding the titlee.My original title "Thoughts on this"? was change by the Moderators. ...


I'm not criticising the thread title whoever wrote it. I was trying to make the point about the unwelcome interraction with a child. Although in this case, part of the concern it has been the criticism, it might just as easily have been over-friendliness.

As I must already have posted, my policy these days days is "eyes front." These days, even the Good Samaritan might take a lot of flak.

From the conversation I had with the bloke in question it wasn't over friendliness at all.

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby thirdcrank » 14 Sep 2018, 1:38pm

ibbo68 wrote: ... From the conversation I had with the bloke in question it wasn't over friendliness at all.


Sorry. I hoped I was making that clear. I was - unsuccessfully - trying to make the point (in the context of some of the more recent posts about stranger danger etc) that an over-friendly stranger would also have been unwelcome.

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby ibbo68 » 14 Sep 2018, 1:44pm

thirdcrank wrote:
ibbo68 wrote: ... From the conversation I had with the bloke in question it wasn't over friendliness at all.


Sorry. I hoped I was making that clear. I was - unsuccessfully - trying to make the point (in the context of some of the more recent posts about stranger danger etc) that an over-friendly stranger would also have been unwelcome.


I think I need to go back and re-read some of the posts :)

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby ibbo68 » 14 Sep 2018, 1:47pm

cyclemad wrote:yes, they were considered too short..........

Sadly some CCs have a strange attitude towards the silliest things :roll:

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby Vorpal » 14 Sep 2018, 1:49pm

ibbo68 wrote: ... I had no choice regarding the tilte.My original title "Thoughts on this"? was change by the Moderators. ...


Not to get off topic again, but you can edit it yourself. I didn't change the title, but I can explain that title was changed because 'thoughts on this?' is quite vague and could be another bike question.

If you wish to change it to something you feel is more appropriate, click the 'edit' button (it looks like a little pencil) in upper right hand of the post.
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Re: Interfering moderators lecturing people about thread title etiquette

Postby gaz » 14 Sep 2018, 2:05pm

:wink:

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Postby Vorpal » 14 Sep 2018, 2:07pm

gaz wrote::wink:

:lol: :lol:

Thanks, gaz.
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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby ibbo68 » 14 Sep 2018, 2:10pm

Vorpal wrote:
ibbo68 wrote: ... I had no choice regarding the tilte.My original title "Thoughts on this"? was change by the Moderators. ...


Not to get off topic again, but you can edit it yourself. I didn't change the title, but I can explain that title was changed because 'thoughts on this?' is quite vague and could be another bike question.

If you wish to change it to something you feel is more appropriate, click the 'edit' button (it looks like a little pencil) in upper right hand of the post.

I know how to edit threads/posts I can't seem to work out how to delete a duplicated post!*Edit* I've worked it out now :mrgreen:
Most Forums have a multi-quote feature but I can't find one on this Forum?!

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby mjr » 14 Sep 2018, 2:22pm

ibbo68 wrote:Most Forums have a multi-quote feature but I can't find one on this Forum?!

Draft your reply quoting the first post you wanted, then before you Submit, scroll down to "TOPIC REVIEW" and click the quote icon on the next post you want to quote. If javascript is enabled, that post will be added to the end of your draft and the window will scroll back up to be ready to type. Pretty usual phpbb behaviour.
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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby ibbo68 » 14 Sep 2018, 2:28pm

mjr wrote:
ibbo68 wrote:Most Forums have a multi-quote feature but I can't find one on this Forum?!

Draft your reply quoting the first post you wanted, then before you Submit, scroll down to "TOPIC REVIEW" and click the quote icon on the next post you want to quote. If javascript is enabled, that post will be added to the end of your draft and the window will scroll back up to be ready to type. Pretty usual phpbb behaviour.

I'll give it a go.
Much easier just to have a multi-quote icon though!

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby Tangled Metal » 14 Sep 2018, 2:29pm

Vorpal wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:I beg to differ. Reception class had information sheets sent home to parents outlining the approach and they outlined lessons about what constitutes abuse and how to determine it. 4/5 year olds so only the basics. The year 6 classes really go to town on risk I believe. All schools are different but this was an NSPCC led initiative and funded team coming in to assist this social development. It certainly went beyond avoidance and into assessment of risks.

I have to admit that I haven't any experience in the last few years, other than what friends post on social media, but prior to that I was in schools every day, in Essex and East London. While at some of the schools, I just turned up, submitted my risk assessment and went where they told me. Other schools, I was at regularly, and knew quite a few of the children. Most of the schools where I had awareness of their approach, definitely erred on the side of risk avoidance, with the exception of a few socially acceptable activities, such as football. The only one that clearly did a much better job, also did lots of stuff to encourage kids using active travel, and was one of the best schools to teach Bikeability at.

I don't know that the NSPCC was ever in any of the schools I was involved with. But Mini V certainly never had any training like that, although the parents were told that the school had a policy of reporting possible abuse.

Every school is different but the scheme brought into our kids school was a national scheme by a leading children's charity. Some of the way they went about it seemed a bit strange (no pants rule) in their approach but overall I got the impression it was a good scheme that is applied in an age appropriate way. They taught what the child at each age could be expected to learn.

I must admit my opinion of my kid's school goes up and down with different activities. They handled this topic overall very well with the charity but other aspects are a shambles. Overall a very good school with a good executive team (yes, there's a headmaster and a chief executive who's also a teacher).

Resilience is a very big buzzword for them. It feeds into everything from schoolwork to physical exercise ma fit abs healthy child learns better and of they develop their resilience they can cope better with difficult situations, difficult school work, etc. It's kind of about coping with what life throws at you.

Also they're very good school for integrating the years. It's a shame two years of small intakes is going to impact very hard during this year. I. Think. They were in debt but the plan to get into the black was working. When last year's small intake results in less money I think this year then they'll not get their debt down much at all.

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Re: Interfering stranger lecturing my son about bike clothing

Postby Tangled Metal » 14 Sep 2018, 2:31pm

ibbo68 wrote:
Vorpal wrote:
ibbo68 wrote: ... I had no choice regarding the tilte.My original title "Thoughts on this"? was change by the Moderators. ...


Not to get off topic again, but you can edit it yourself. I didn't change the title, but I can explain that title was changed because 'thoughts on this?' is quite vague and could be another bike question.

If you wish to change it to something you feel is more appropriate, click the 'edit' button (it looks like a little pencil) in upper right hand of the post.

I know how to edit threads/posts I can't seem to work out how to delete a duplicated post!*Edit* I've worked it out now :mrgreen:
Most Forums have a multi-quote feature but I can't find one on this Forum?!

I never found one neither. Mind you I've never got on well with multi quotes neither.
mjr wrote:
ibbo68 wrote:Most Forums have a multi-quote feature but I can't find one on this Forum?!

Draft your reply quoting the first post you wanted, then before you Submit, scroll down to "TOPIC REVIEW" and click the quote icon on the next post you want to quote. If javascript is enabled, that post will be added to the end of your draft and the window will scroll back up to be ready to type. Pretty usual phpbb behaviour.


Well I never! It works! Thank you. :D

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Re: Interfering moderators lecturing people about thread title etiquette

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Sep 2018, 5:09pm

Vorpal wrote:
gaz wrote::wink:

:lol: :lol:

Thanks, gaz.

Instead of changing the tt, thread title, the mod could pm the op

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