Electric Moped (EAPB)?

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Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby simonhill » 10 Sep 2019, 5:21pm

Am I correct in thinking that an electric moped, without pedals, even though it is restricted to 25kph needs a licence, insurance helmet, etc?

I ask because someone who has one claims it is an eapb and says it is OK to ride with a bicycle helmet. Before I make a fool of myself, I would like confirmation by the knowledgeable folks here.

Interestingly while researching this I found this on eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Bik ... 2566257017

To quote from the advert: "No driving licence required, no tax, no M.O.T, no parking fines or congestion charges, you do not need to register our bikes with DVLA!"

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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby reohn2 » 10 Sep 2019, 5:36pm

The one on Ebay has pedals.
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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby Grandad » 10 Sep 2019, 5:45pm

Looking at the ebay advert pictures it does have pedals - but the description says they are removable! Leave the pedals on and I think that everything else is within the e-bike requirements. Willing to be corrected if I've missed something.

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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby Vetus Ossa » 10 Sep 2019, 6:07pm

The white one in the picture has the cranks and pedals removed.

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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby hemo » 10 Sep 2019, 6:19pm

simonhill wrote:Am I correct in thinking that an electric moped, without pedals, even though it is restricted to 25kph needs a licence, insurance helmet, etc?
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Simply put Yes, it is a light moped Le1a classification.

The scooter with pedals needs type approval certification (SVA)if it has a full working throttle to be legal as I doubt it will be comfortable to pedal all the time. With out type approval (SVA) it is a illegal.

David Miall of Wisper Ebikes provides type approval for his Eapc's supplied with a full working throttle, cost is about £175 extra to be legal and each bike has to be assessed separately as you can't have a blanket (SVA) for a bike model.
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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby simonhill » 10 Sep 2019, 6:21pm

Ooops, I didn't look closely enough at the advert, just grabbed it off eBay, sorry. Instead I was looking at a photo of the 'moped' ridden by the person* I was talking about, which does look like the white one.

I get the pedelec thing, but these mopeds must be very difficult to pedal for any length of time which is needed to get the electric power. Also if the pedals are removed, how do you get the power assist? (Edit I see from last post this is via an 'illegal' throttle.)

(NB *the person is someone who has written in to a magazine I get. His 'moped' looked much more moped than pedelec.)

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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby hemo » 10 Sep 2019, 6:31pm

On pedelec's there was someone who had one of these so called moped looking bikes and the police I believe refused to accept it as an ebike/eapc esp as it was ridden on the pavement, the user was warned if caught again of consequences.

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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby djnotts » 11 Sep 2019, 8:39am

Seen a few petrol engined "bicycles" locally in recent months. No problem in these parts, Notts police wont bother with such trivialities!

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Re: Electric Moped (EAPB)?

Postby PH » 11 Sep 2019, 7:00pm

I know a couple of delivery riders using those like in the eBay link, they’re restricted to the right speed and they don’t operate unless the pedals are turned. Not that the pedalling would get you far, it function is only to enable the motor. The users like them, why not, it’s an electric vehicle that serves a purpose. I’d have no objection to the insistence on pedals being removed, I’m happier with that than the calls to increase the speed permitted.