Who painted this frame
Who painted this frame
I was wondering if anyone knows what painter might have used that mark?
Re: Who painted this frame
The forum boards have a number of "styles" that each user can choose from and they do not all display oversized images in the same way.
I guess that you are trying to identify the "tag" at the top of the seatstay, which does not display unless I resize the forum on my screen (Ctrl and -). I haven't got a clue.
I guess that you are trying to identify the "tag" at the top of the seatstay, which does not display unless I resize the forum on my screen (Ctrl and -). I haven't got a clue.
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Re: Who painted this frame
If your camera has a macro function, this would be a good time to use it!
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Re: Who painted this frame
Shrunk the image so more people should be able to see the mark.
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Re: Who painted this frame
In the “olden days” many frame builders/painters decorated the top seat stay eyes in this ways in various styles. I don’t think any builder, with the exception of possibly Pennine had their own mark, it just depended on how the guy painting the frame felt inclined to decorate it at the time, or possibly by buyers request.
A full picture of the frame and lugs may be more help in identifying the builder and possibly the painter.
A full picture of the frame and lugs may be more help in identifying the builder and possibly the painter.
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Re: Who painted this frame
The frame is a Johnny Berry from 1968 and I am trying find out if the paint is original. He usually used C & G Finishes in Liverpool but they often used a series of parallel lines to mark the frames so I was curious if this would be a mark used by another painter.
Sorry about the photo. I just used my phone to upload it and didn't know that it would cause an issue.
Sorry about the photo. I just used my phone to upload it and didn't know that it would cause an issue.
Re: Who painted this frame
reynolds transfer may give a clue to paint date
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... story.html
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... story.html
Re: Who painted this frame
nicmarsh wrote:reynolds transfer may give a clue to paint date
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... story.html
Thank you very much as I think you might have cracked it for me. The Reynolds transfer looks to be post 1973 and as the bike is built in 1968 it is highly unlikely that anyone would have added that transfer later. Apparently Johnny Berry bikes generally do not have Reynolds stickers as he did not want to advertise for them.
It is of course interesting who might have painted the frame but if it is not original then I think it is fairly academic.
Re: Who painted this frame
grani wrote:nicmarsh wrote:reynolds transfer may give a clue to paint date
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... story.html
Thank you very much as I think you might have cracked it for me. The Reynolds transfer looks to be post 1973 and as the bike is built in 1968 it is highly unlikely that anyone would have added that transfer later. Apparently Johnny Berry bikes generally do not have Reynolds stickers as he did not want to advertise for them.
It is of course interesting who might have painted the frame but if it is not original then I think it is fairly academic.
I read a few days ago that frame builders bought the stickers in such quantities that they used them for 10 years after Reynolds changed design.
Re: Who painted this frame
fossala wrote:grani wrote:nicmarsh wrote:reynolds transfer may give a clue to paint date
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... story.html
Thank you very much as I think you might have cracked it for me. The Reynolds transfer looks to be post 1973 and as the bike is built in 1968 it is highly unlikely that anyone would have added that transfer later. Apparently Johnny Berry bikes generally do not have Reynolds stickers as he did not want to advertise for them.
It is of course interesting who might have painted the frame but if it is not original then I think it is fairly academic.
I read a few days ago that frame builders bought the stickers in such quantities that they used them for 10 years after Reynolds changed design.
Yes my theory is that the bike was repainted and rebuilt in early 80's as some of the components that were on it are from that time. The Reynolds sticker could well be "old stock" as you say as it was produced 1973-77.