The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

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The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby jonroberts24 » 20 Nov 2015, 3:35pm

Does anyone know The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path?
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby Vorpal » 20 Nov 2015, 3:49pm

There isn't one.

Most segregated paths are designed for approximately 12 mph, and the Department for Transport say that cyclists going faster than 18 mph should use the road.

That said, cyclists should take care in the presence of pedestrians, especially children, dog walkers, etc. There are many circumstances where 12 mph is probably too fast for a shared use faciltiy.
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby gaz » 20 Nov 2015, 5:46pm

+1, broadly speaking.

Source for the 18mph maximum recommendation: http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. ... icefor1688

There are a small number of locations where bye-laws exist that do place an enforceable speed limit upon cyclists, including some Royal Parks and sea-side promenades.

In addition Section 268 of the Transport Act 2000 allows the creation of "Quiet Lanes" and "Home Zones" with the option of speed limits for cycles.

(5)A speed order is an order authorising the local traffic authority by whom it is made to take measures with a view to reducing the speed of motor vehicles or cycles (or both) on a road to below that specified in the order.


I don't know where this sign is, nor if there is anything legal to back it up.

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IMO the choice of a blue background was not intended to indicate a minimum speed limit, it was just an extremely poor choice :wink: .
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 20 Nov 2015, 8:37pm

Hi,
I don't like the "Pedestrians have priority"

They already get in my way on purpose and don't even mention horse riders :evil:

Just add dogs and its mayhem.
Dog walkers don't seem to realise its easier to "Walk to your dog" quicker and safer all round than try and call your dog across the path :? , recall second hardest dog handling too retrieve..................

I will be back on the road soon :(
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby GrumpyGit » 20 Nov 2015, 9:07pm

jonroberts24 wrote:Does anyone know The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path?
Thanks

What I never understood from the recent Richmond Park case is that as bicycles are not fitted with the requisite instrumentation, even if a speed limit is imposed, how the bleeping hell are you to know whether or not you've broken it?

If anyone knows how they got that one to stand up in court, please enlighten the rest of us.
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby gaz » 20 Nov 2015, 9:53pm

I'll respond the same way as I did the last time we discussed it.

"I put it to you m'lud that my client cannot be guilty of drink driving, as his car is not fitted with any device for measuring the alcohol content of his body" :wink: .
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby MikeF » 21 Nov 2015, 12:15am

That 10mph should be in a red circle with cyclists added below. Otherwise it's just information that cyclists travel at 10 mph - pedestrians etc take note. :wink:
The sign basically indicates a design problem. Imagine that being put on a road.
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby MikeF » 21 Nov 2015, 12:18am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
I don't like the "Pedestrians have priority"

Pedestrians always have priority - even on a road.
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 21 Nov 2015, 9:20am

Hi,
MikeF wrote:
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:I don't like the "Pedestrians have priority"

Pedestrians always have priority - even on a road.


On a shared path :?:

I see few give way to peds signs.
The only one in my patch is a faded wooden one below eye level at a staggered gate, where a cyclist would need priority/ or safer.
Most peds would give way to me at a gate without my asking.
Then theres the walk through gate I suppose even if its staggered, how many cyclist dismount at staggered gates :?:

Shared is shared, does it say in highway code cyclist give way to peds off road etc, :?: I don't know without looking.

I always stop but only because I have too, yesterday two peds said thankyou to my use of bell and more raised their hand as thanks.
I am more than happy to share, but the cyclist I know has to take more care and halt where needed.
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby Mark1978 » 21 Nov 2015, 10:57am

MikeF wrote:That 10mph should be in a red circle with cyclists added below. Otherwise it's just information that cyclists travel at 10 mph - pedestrians etc take note. :wink:
The sign basically indicates a design problem. Imagine that being put on a road.


AFAIK there is no national legislation that allows for speed limits for bicycles so such a sign would have no meaning. Same as any sign is only conveying information that a traffic regulation order is in effect.

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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby Rich_Clements » 21 Nov 2015, 11:20am

As with anything it's down to common sense
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 21 Nov 2015, 11:23am

Hi,
Rich_Clements wrote:As with anything it's down to common sense


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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby TonyR » 21 Nov 2015, 11:34am

Rich_Clements wrote:As with anything it's down to common sense


"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen".
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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby MikeLR » 21 Nov 2015, 4:32pm

Part of the problem is Strava,through Chester from Mickle Trafford at one end and Neston at the other we have the Green Way. We offer see idiots going at great speed on TT bike with tri bars etc presumably trying to set records.
It's a multi used facility with walkers,kids on bikes, etc. A couple of speed bumps have been installed to slow this type down,it's only a matter of time before there is a nasty accident as has happened in the past.

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Re: The speed limit for bikes on a cycle path

Postby [XAP]Bob » 21 Nov 2015, 7:00pm

Then "flag" it on strava as unsuitable.
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
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